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Mike106

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My Banggai had his first set of fry on April 4th. He had 9 babies of which I have six left. I set up a 20 gallon refugium tank that they are in. The parents quickly went back at it and I will have another batch any day now. My question is can I put both batches together or is this a problem. I see feeding as the only issue right now. I am still feeding the fry baby brine shrimp and I believe I can feed enough so all are happy. I will want to seperate them when I start feeding the older fish frozen or prepared food. I will seperate the tank with some acrylic or something but should I do this before they are born? Please give me your opinions/suggestions. Thanks.

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npaden

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In my experience the older babies will harras or even try to eat the smaller ones. My Banggais are on about a one month cycle and if you feed really well they will almost quadruple in size in that first month. I keep my youngest babies in a breeder type box in my refugium until the next batch is ready to go and then release the larger batch into the refugium and put the youngest ones into the breeders cup.

I'm on batch 5 now - getting harder to keep track! My LFS is buying my babies at 2 months old for $5 each so it's working pretty well for me so far. Of course I still never have enough credit left to get everything I want!

I've sold 45 babies so far and have 3 a little over 2 months old ready to sell (had some mishaps with that batch) and about 25 or so in my breeders cup right now that are almost 2 weeks old. I'm hoping to get to 100 successfully raised and sold by the end of the summer.

FWIW, Nathan
 

FMarini

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Hi:
I'm w/ Nathan on this one. Larger fry will harass the smaller fry unless you have lots of room.
If you want to read more on raising/breeding banggai check out this site
http://www.eparc.com/banggai/banggai.shtml
its has many of the answers you asked
frank

Nate:
fantastic job, 100 banggers (my term for banggai fry) by summer. So how many total broods w/ this set of parents?

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npaden

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Frank, this makes the 5th sucessful batch with this set of parents. There were several aborted batches before the first sucessful batch - then 3 in a row and then an abort and then a month off then 2 more in a row so far. I think one of the keys to them continuing to breed is that they seem to wait longer between batches than many that I've heard off. Several times they have waited for a couple weeks in between batches instead of a couple days like many I've heard off. I think the shortest time between batches has been 7 or 8 days.

I've had pretty good sucess overall - most of my mistakes have been due to physical housing mistakes (like the hang on refugium falling into the main tank and releasing the entire batch of babies into the 415 gallon tank!) :(

My first batch was 14, second was 12 then 19 again (all numbers are fry that were raised to maturity and sold) - the last batch of 19 had a 100% survival rate and were released into the main tank and retrieved with a net. I've never understood my poor sucess with the 2nd batch - they were released prematurely but only by a couple days and I started with over 50 but they slowly dwindled down to the 12. I'm leaning toward starvation - I now think I just wasn't feeding enough for all the babies to get enough to eat. The more aggressive ones got all the food and the ones on the fringe just starved. :( The 4th batch was only 9 (caught out of the main tank again - not much sucess in finding them this time) and then those were dumped into the main tank in the accident mentioned about and I only have 3 of those left right now right at saleable age (2 months for me).

My last batch I caught the male again and he released into the net when I caught him and I ended up picking babies off the floor! (just 3 or 4, but they were still alive when I put them in the breeder box!) This batch is at 2 weeks and there are around 25 of them left. (I lost 2 to unkown causes). I've had the best sucess feeding baby brine shrimp for the first week and a half then switching to frozen prawn eggs for 2 or 3 weeks and then weaning them onto other readily available frozen and flake foods at about 1 1/2 months. By the time I sell them to the LFS at 2 months they are eating anything that hits the top of the water and will fit in their mouths! ;)

They are pretty small still at 2 months (a good sized aggressive fish could eat one I think) but the LFS likes them at that size and pays me $5 each and sells them for $10 and most people are putting them in pretty small tanks with few other fish. I know a few of the people who have bought them and have even checked up on some of them and they seem to be doing pretty well in most of their tanks.

Oh well, FWIW, Nathan
 

FMarini

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Nate:
Great observations. I like the fact that your using the prawn eggs. Many of the people who post in my forum are reporting success w/ these as a BBS replacement.
Like what your observing i found that my pairs would breed for 3 or 4 months in a row then stop and then start and then stop again. For no good reasons they just did. I have a few ideas but nothing definiative.
Thanks again
frank
 

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