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benneb1897201vw

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Yesterday I had one anenome, this morning I had two. I didn't know this was possible, guess you learn something new everyday. Anyway, below is a link to the picture of the two. Also, can anyone id this particular anenome? thanks


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EmilyB

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E.quads and ritteri are the only anemones I believe that do this in the aquarium. It is usually brought on by a "stressor" of some kind.
 

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Are you asking me ? Here is a recent discussion:

[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: EmilyB ]anem one splitting

His link is there.

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Yep, that's DEFINITELY a bubble tip anemone, aka Entamacea quadricolor. It also looks like it's lost its zooxanthellae! I've been feeding one for around a year now that's lost its zooxanthellae after it split; it's growing slowly, but it IS growing!
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by EmilyB:
<strong>It is usually brought on by a "stressor" of some kind.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry EmilyB, I don't agree. I think it would be better said that splitting could be brought on by a stressor. After 40+ splits, some caused by stressors (primarily mechanical stressors- ie, being torn into pieces by a toothed overflow), I can assure you that E. quads can and do split in captivity when they aren't heavily stressed.

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Super Len

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Chronic "stress", such as persistent feedings, can induce asexual reproduction in E.quadricolors.

It's semantics: what defines a stressor?
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by John Fletcher:
<strong>over feeding is considered a stressor?</strong><hr></blockquote>


To Leonard it is
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No Leonard, I'm not starting another pages-long thread on the benefits (or lack thereof) of feeding host anemones
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IMO, an intensive feeding regiment of large, fleshy foods would easily qualify as a chronic stressor for host anemones. This is not to say anemones aren't deriving benefits from such feedings. Stress, as I define it in this case, is any unnatural influence exerted on an object (pretty broad defination, I admit).
 
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Leonard,
I am curious why you think anemones in the wild are not fed often. Especially host anemones. I would think that they eat more than many other anemones. I also believe that that is why Atlantic anemones have such prodigious stings and are highly predatory. It seems that pacific host anemones eat leftovers from their host and also get to feed their zoo with the host's feces.

I disagree that overfeeding is a stressor. As a matter of fact,if an anemone was overfed it would regurgitate the excess food. Like most of our specimens I believe we do overfeed,but not to the point of it harming our stock directly(excess nutrients,not overfeeding).

I also agree that stress can cause splitting,but usually you wind up with a dead anemone or one that has a deformity(one is bleached or has no mouth).
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ANEMONEBUFF:
<strong>Leonard,
I am curious why you think anemones in the wild are not fed often. Especially host anemones. </strong><hr></blockquote>


Uh-Oh
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Do you remember that song, "here we go again"?

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D-Nak

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Long story short...

It quite common, especially for bubble-tip anemones, to split and make more anemones. Mine split 3 times and didn't show any signs or stress.

D-Nak

P.S.
Rose anemones often split too... and you can get good trades for these guys!

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Why I consider heavy feedings a "stressor": When fed intensively, E.quadricolor is more prone to asexual reproduction. Therefore, cause-and-effect analysis would indicate feeding is indeed a "stressor." I think we're debating semantics here, and probably are in general agreement.

Host anemones are not voracious predators. They do not feed regularly on diets consisting of large, fleshy foods in the wild. Rather, leading authorities suggest the bulk of nutrition is sustained with sunlight, plankton, detritus, and direct nutrient absorbtion. Because plankton availability is virtually nonexsistent in closed systems, we're sometimes forced to supplement their nutrition with unnatural feeding regiments. BTW, clownfish are also not known to consume large prey items. Stomach analysis suggests they feed on algae and very small plankton. Because of this, it's highly unlikely they intentionally feed their hosts anything in the wild.
 

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Super Len":o8vh44lu said:
Why I consider heavy feedings a "stressor": When fed intensively, E.quadricolor is more prone to asexual reproduction. Therefore, cause-and-effect analysis would indicate feeding is indeed a "stressor." I think we're debating semantics here, and probably are in general agreement.

Host anemones are not voracious predators. They do not feed regularly on diets consisting of large, fleshy foods in the wild. Rather, leading authorities suggest the bulk of nutrition is sustained with sunlight, plankton, detritus, and direct nutrient absorbtion. Because plankton availability is virtually nonexsistent in closed systems, we're sometimes forced to supplement their nutrition with unnatural feeding regiments. BTW, clownfish are also not known to consume large prey items. Stomach analysis suggests they feed on algae and very small plankton. Because of this, it's highly unlikely they intentionally feed their hosts anything in the wild.
There used to be a "Super Len"?!? 8O
 

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