how big???
- Thread starter kirtis
- Start date
I believe you know the answer already. Quit trying to fool yourself!
NO TANG(S) FOR YOUR 30G!!!!!!!!
BTW, you will soon find out your snowflake eat and poops more then you like him to be. I bet the clown is wondering if he will be the next meal right now!!
Go back to your original question, the starfish is a slow grower, but is sensitive to water quality. Living with a big dump in a small confinement, you will have to be very careful about water quality otherwise, you will be seeing your starfish losing legs.
[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: danmhippo ]
[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: danmhippo ]</p>
NO TANG(S) FOR YOUR 30G!!!!!!!!
BTW, you will soon find out your snowflake eat and poops more then you like him to be. I bet the clown is wondering if he will be the next meal right now!!
Go back to your original question, the starfish is a slow grower, but is sensitive to water quality. Living with a big dump in a small confinement, you will have to be very careful about water quality otherwise, you will be seeing your starfish losing legs.
[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: danmhippo ]
[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: danmhippo ]</p>
Kirt,
Tangs are not recommendable for much less than a 100 gallon system. They need all the room they can get. I almost feel cruel keeping my Yellow Tang in a 100 gallon "box of water".
If you want more fish get a larger tank. Your options get cut pretty short when you house marine animals in a tank under 75 gallons IMO.
Tangs are not recommendable for much less than a 100 gallon system. They need all the room they can get. I almost feel cruel keeping my Yellow Tang in a 100 gallon "box of water".
If you want more fish get a larger tank. Your options get cut pretty short when you house marine animals in a tank under 75 gallons IMO.
hey dont'youy just wish ,,,,,, how many fish do you have in your aquarium, really , bigger than a dishplate,,,, you want to send me a picture of it ??????? no offense against anyone, i am thankful for all the info , but my petshops i visit and all have all kinds of fish and he keeps his in a 30 gallon,,,,,,,, I have had alot of people tell me mine will be fine as long as i keep amonia and nitrates down
see you guys late,r and by the way danmwhatever, if you are going to be hateful about it , get over yourself and dont answer,
looking foward to watching my fish tonight
see you guys late,r and by the way danmwhatever, if you are going to be hateful about it , get over yourself and dont answer,
looking foward to watching my fish tonight
you people are making me afraid of all my fish dying,,,, that is what it is sounding like,, i mean my fish act happy, i had them in a 20 lucky i changed over to a 30 ,,,, i paid 117 dollars for my 30 , was that bad ,, i hope they are ok i am worried bout them now
mtellin, ok thanks, i won't get a tang, but tell me what you think of this, i have a snowflake eel, a green brittle star, and a tomato clownfish, which you probably already now, that is all i have in my 30 gallon and some live rock , these fish should be ok , i mean cause my friend in class has a 29 gallon and he has several fish do you have a messenger service
Reefkeeping is about apreceation not accumulation. Make the best of what you have before you take on any new challenges, you will find you are more successfull that way, and far more economically and environmentally freindly. If you think Tangs can be kept in a 30 gallon tank then you have never seen happy Tangs before.
We strive to provide the environment for our inhabitants, under no circumstances should the inhabitants be provided for our environment.
We strive to provide the environment for our inhabitants, under no circumstances should the inhabitants be provided for our environment.
Watch out for green brittle star. Some are very efficient fish predator. They trap and eat your fish very quickly.
It is true IMO, that a 30 tank cannot house very many fish. The Snowflake by itself should be OK. Any smaller fish can easily end up as eel's dinner.
It is true IMO, that a 30 tank cannot house very many fish. The Snowflake by itself should be OK. Any smaller fish can easily end up as eel's dinner.
yeah my tomato clownfish is alot bigger than he is , he cant get into his mouth and plus they kind of like each other lol my amonia and all my other stuff in my testing kit are looking good so i think i am set until i get a job next year and get a bigger tank ,,,,,, thanx for responding , i love this fish board
Hmmm.....Whatever I said, does it really sound that bad? Maybe if I add a couple more of
, will it be a bit easier on you?
On the other post, you asked how we do it. I told everyone that I started out with a 5G when I was in my highschool. See, you can afford a 20, and another 30G when you are 17. Back then, I can only afford a 5G. Neverthless, I made a lot of mistake and being ignorant of not providing a more suitable environment for the critters that I wanted to keep. I don't know about other people, but I learned and accumulated my fishtank knowledge the hard way.
I don't care if you are pissed at reading my prior post. However, what you see at the LFS is not really true. They are able to change water much more frequent than you could. They are able to starve the fish in order to keep nutrient down, you can't. They knows what to avoid but not telling you. Sure, I have seen some LFS sold 20 yellow tangs to a guy that only has a 50G tank. I have also seen LFS stocking brilliant color fish in their show tank. In fact, many many of them, much higher capacity then most of people on this board would attempt. Does that means we could duplicate that tank at home? No.
I sense that you don't like my tone, I apologize, but I won't stop telling you that your clown fish is living in horror.
On the other post, you asked how we do it. I told everyone that I started out with a 5G when I was in my highschool. See, you can afford a 20, and another 30G when you are 17. Back then, I can only afford a 5G. Neverthless, I made a lot of mistake and being ignorant of not providing a more suitable environment for the critters that I wanted to keep. I don't know about other people, but I learned and accumulated my fishtank knowledge the hard way.
I don't care if you are pissed at reading my prior post. However, what you see at the LFS is not really true. They are able to change water much more frequent than you could. They are able to starve the fish in order to keep nutrient down, you can't. They knows what to avoid but not telling you. Sure, I have seen some LFS sold 20 yellow tangs to a guy that only has a 50G tank. I have also seen LFS stocking brilliant color fish in their show tank. In fact, many many of them, much higher capacity then most of people on this board would attempt. Does that means we could duplicate that tank at home? No.
I sense that you don't like my tone, I apologize, but I won't stop telling you that your clown fish is living in horror.
kirtis,
i know how it feels to get the first marine aquarium. my first marine aquarium was a 40 gallon tank and i couldn't wait to get it packed full of fish.
i didn't have the benifit of the internet to help me with the tank. just the local fish store.
they told me that a tang would be okay for my 40gallon tank. so i bought a yellow tang. i fed the tang flake food and some frozen food twice a day. about six weeks later the tang died. after my fish died i researched to try and find out why and learned that it probably died of lateral line disease and not having enough swimming room in the tank. lateral line disease starts with what looks like pits in the scales just behind the eye of the tang and as it progresses will form a line of holes that run vertically between the eyes and the gills. this disease is caused by malnutrition. most tang species are primarily herbivores and need a lot of algae to survive. i would make a guess that 99% of the people on this board feed their tangs a lot of macro algae or sheet algae to keep them healthy.
another note about saltwater fish is that they have to drink saltwater constantly in order for then to rid their bodies of various waste products. freshwater fish don't have to do this, which is one reason they are easier to keep.
tangs eat so much that they constantly crap and piss, and since they have to drink all the time it is very important that the water be cleaned either by biological filtration or mechanical filtration. imagine drinking your own piss.
since you already have a very large bioload in your tank i would at least recommend getting an airstone of some kind to help keep the tank full of oxygen and hopefull this will help keep the PH up, but definately don't add any more fish.
so to wrap up please don't put a tang in that small of a tank.
take care of your fish and research what they require to thrive. the fish will be happier and your hobby will be much more rewarding.
the people on this board are very knowledgable so if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR NEW HOBBY IT IS VERY ADDICTIVE, BEFORE LONG YOU MIGHT GET THE REEF BUG
i know how it feels to get the first marine aquarium. my first marine aquarium was a 40 gallon tank and i couldn't wait to get it packed full of fish.
i didn't have the benifit of the internet to help me with the tank. just the local fish store.
they told me that a tang would be okay for my 40gallon tank. so i bought a yellow tang. i fed the tang flake food and some frozen food twice a day. about six weeks later the tang died. after my fish died i researched to try and find out why and learned that it probably died of lateral line disease and not having enough swimming room in the tank. lateral line disease starts with what looks like pits in the scales just behind the eye of the tang and as it progresses will form a line of holes that run vertically between the eyes and the gills. this disease is caused by malnutrition. most tang species are primarily herbivores and need a lot of algae to survive. i would make a guess that 99% of the people on this board feed their tangs a lot of macro algae or sheet algae to keep them healthy.
another note about saltwater fish is that they have to drink saltwater constantly in order for then to rid their bodies of various waste products. freshwater fish don't have to do this, which is one reason they are easier to keep.
tangs eat so much that they constantly crap and piss, and since they have to drink all the time it is very important that the water be cleaned either by biological filtration or mechanical filtration. imagine drinking your own piss.
since you already have a very large bioload in your tank i would at least recommend getting an airstone of some kind to help keep the tank full of oxygen and hopefull this will help keep the PH up, but definately don't add any more fish.
so to wrap up please don't put a tang in that small of a tank.
take care of your fish and research what they require to thrive. the fish will be happier and your hobby will be much more rewarding.
the people on this board are very knowledgable so if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR NEW HOBBY IT IS VERY ADDICTIVE, BEFORE LONG YOU MIGHT GET THE REEF BUG
I'm sorry, but are you new to the internet? Use a search engine and see how many people have been flamed for asking the same question. If you're looking for the one voice in twenty who'll tell you it works, go ahead and buy the tang. Just get ready to bury, or flush, the tang.
I wouldn't keep the moray in a tank that size.
I wouldn't keep the moray in a tank that size.
sorry right person wrong post
[ October 30, 2001: Message edited by: Rich-n-poor ]</p>
_________________
Ferrari Mythos
[ October 30, 2001: Message edited by: Rich-n-poor ]</p>
_________________
Ferrari Mythos
heres my 2 cents and its important to remember. The reason you will see so many fish in one tank at a LFS is because that is a TEMPORARY housing. They are not intending to keep that tank stocked that heavily with the same fish for more than a few weeks
Sponsor Reefs
We're a FREE website, and we exist because of hobbyists like YOU who help us run this community.
Click here to sponsor $10:
