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Tcook

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Thought I'd post this before and after.


T. peltata 4 weeks ago soon after purchase:
cupyellowJan02.jpg


And today:
cupgreenFeb02.jpg


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Nice. I'm glad to see it survived that episode of animal abuse.
 

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I have a cup that I bought about 2 weeks ago.
It was a light pinkish tone when I got it but it has turned an off pink white now and my LFS and I have been trying to figure out why the thing would be bleaching but seeming to generally open better and act healthier.

I didn't get this at LFS but mail order.
My LFS is Inland Aquatics and they and I have been trying to figure this out.
I didn't even think this could be a dye job!

Oh man!
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Tcook

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Tybond,
Sounds like it may be a dye job. I think the only natural colors are green and brown. Yellow, pink, and oranges seem to be the favorite colors of the dye junkies.
 

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I never realized someone would stoop to injecting corals with dye to sell them..No this IS animal abuse!
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Tcook

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They actually don't inject them. They just add the dye to the water and bag the coral. But you're right, it's abuse no matter how it's done.
 

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There could be other causes for it to change color. Diet, lighting, water conditions can make these change. I purchased a bright yellow cup coral and it started to change to green about a month after it was in my tank. It was green for about 4 months and then started to turn back to yellow which is it's current state. What changed, the lighting. I moved it from a relatively low light area to one that gets direct morning sun. Is this the cause, I assume it is but have nothing but empherical evidence to go on. There could be other causes rather than a dye job.
 
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No that coral was obviously dyed. Corals can be quite colorful but some colors just don't exist in certain species unless they are dyed or GARF'd in photos.

Below is a photo from Mary at MSI. You can click on the photo to learn more.



It is an abhorrent practice and should be stopped.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by DRT:
<strong>There could be other causes for it to change color. Diet, lighting, water conditions can make these change. I purchased a bright yellow cup coral and it started to change to green about a month after it was in my tank. It was green for about 4 months and then started to turn back to yellow which is it's current state. What changed, the lighting. I moved it from a relatively low light area to one that gets direct morning sun. Is this the cause, I assume it is but have nothing but empherical evidence to go on. There could be other causes rather than a dye job.</strong><hr></blockquote>

well i was at a lfs today and they had some bright yellow ones and a few were starting to fade. he told me that they were dyed and it only lasted a few months. i think yours is probably dyed as well.
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MickAv8r:
<strong>or GARF'd in photos.

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what is that supposed to mean?

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MickAv8r:
<strong>You can click on the photo to learn more.
[ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: MickAv8r ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Reading that makes we wonder if some of those unreal colored corals in the Bonsai reef post a month or so back were dyed since the article stated that this is a popular pratice in Japan.
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
There could be other causes for it to change color. Diet, lighting, water conditions can make these change. I purchased a bright yellow cup coral and it started to change to green about a month after it was in my tank. It was green for about 4 months and then started to turn back to yellow which is it's current state. What changed, the lighting. I moved it from a relatively low light area to one that gets direct morning sun. Is this the cause, I assume it is but have nothing but empherical evidence to go on. There could be other causes rather than a dye job.

I have had this happen with almost all the corals I have bought at local LFSs. Sometimes the color brightens in my tank, sometime it fades, sometimes it simply changes. Many factors affect the color. Neon colors may be the result of dye, but just because a coral changes color doesn't mean that it was dyed.

The pictures shown certainly seem dyed, though.

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GARF'ing, GARF'd v. The action of improving coral colors through the use of Adobe Photoshop or similar digital editing techniques. First used in reference to unrealistically color saturated coral photos found on the GARF web site (www.garf.org) in past years.

A couple photos from their site for comparison:

The original: http://www.garf.org/20/matt/MATT384289.JPG
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and the GARF'd version: http://www.garf.org/20/sj2.JPG
sj2.JPG


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There is yellow turbinaria, you know. I had a piece a few years back (it was called yellow scroll) and it turned an orangey color in my tank wherever it was exposed to the MHs, but where it was shaded, it remained yellow, as did the polyps. Even though there are a lot of colors out there that don't seem possible, a lot of them are, in fact, naturally occurring. Just look at some species of acropora. You get amazing color morphs depending on the lighting and water conditions, but sometimes when you move them, they change and people start saying they're dyed. Not to say that it's definitely not dyed, but I have yet to see a turbinaria that was light colored enough to be able to be dyed yellow, unless it was completely bleached, in which case, it wouldn't be coloring up in your tank. Try and move it around your tank and see if it starts to regain the yellow coloration. I don't know if it would need more intense lighting, or less, but one or the other might return it to the original coloration.
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by davelin315:
<strong>There is yellow turbinaria, you know.....I don't know if it would need more intense lighting, or less, but one or the other might return it to the original coloration.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I believe that now it is showing its normal coloration. I haven't seen any examples of yellow T. peltata in aquaria or books. T. reniformis, yes. I showed this coral to Eric Borneman and he feels that it is certainly dyed.
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by davelin315:
<strong> I have yet to see a turbinaria that was light colored enough to be able to be dyed yellow, unless it was completely bleached, in which case, it wouldn't be coloring up in your tank.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You don't need translucency to dye tissue a lighter shade such as yellow. I use yellow, blue,red, and green vital dyes to stain skin specimens. The natural pigment doesn't show through.
 

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We randomly got a pair of bright neon yellow dyed goniopora (apparently to add insult to injury) from one of our wholesalers. They couldn't figure out why we were upset, after all it is one of their best sellers.
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