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eco-tropic":gleuz7fd said:
Amphiprion chrysopterus X sandaracinos forms this fish. I have seen it with my own eyes while diving in Fabrina. I do have one pair that I have held out hope for. When Eco-Tropic was a functional business entity I did multiple experiments with trying to form the aforementioned cross. For some reason it ends in dead sandaracinos. The chrysopterus mating ritual is a bit different from other clowns in that it is a little on the violent side. Due to the small size of the sandaracinos they always end up mortally wounded. I have had one nest from this pair. They consumed within an hour and I was forced to move them a week afterwards. They have been settled for about two months and have been doing some heavy cleaning, so I am hopeful that a nest is on the way.

James,
I would enjoy seeing parts of Fernando's article reprinted. Our true percula spawning and partial rearing success ( 15-days and counting) really has the juices flowing.

Jeff,

Does the larger size of the A. chrysopterus dictate that it will always be the female when crossing with A. sandaracinos? Is that what you observed in the wild? What is likely to happen if a large female A.sandaracinos is placed with a small know male A. chrysoterus?
 

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Jeff,

You mean you dove on Febrina? You lucky dog!!!!!

My friend from Wetpixel - HerbKo has some pictures of the A. leucokranos in the same carpet anemone as A. sandracinos. Those photos are from the Solomons. I think the Solomons is the geographic center of distribution for these fish.

Cheers
James
 

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jamesw":24677665 said:
You mean you dove on Febrina? You lucky dog!!!!!
James,

Yes "Febrina" -- If only the once great state of California had taught me to spell. The Solomons seem to be the epicenter of this pervers behavior in anemonefish. I have also seen similar pictures of cap & orange skunk together. I have attached yet another pic showing cap & blue-stripe. I did not take this pic myself but thought folks on this board would like to see it.


dizzy":24677665 said:
Does the larger size of the A. chrysopterus dictate that it will always be the female when crossing with A. sandaracinos? Is that what you observed in the wild? What is likely to happen if a large female A.sandaracinos is placed with a small know male A. chrysoterus?
dizzy,

It would seem that your first sentence is the axiom in this case. I don't know that anyone has reported a sandaracinos female with a chrysopterus male in the wild. It seems to me that it might be possible. I tried this with tank raised chrysopterus and it didn't work. The female skunk would go belligerent and try to kill the small chrysopterus. I tried a couple of female skunks with the same results.

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Here is a cross that could never take place in the wild. When they spawn, which I think is about 6 months off, I will call this mix Amphiprion akingripies. Sorry for the terrible pic. I've had a cynobacter problem in this system for a while. This was a total accident. Both clowns lost mates and ended up together. They have been cleaning and play spawning on the pot. Hope I'm not detracting from the original purpose of this post? Just thought folks would find it interesting.

James,

Thanks again. I think your success as a regular hobbyist is a watershed in captive marine fish culture. I think your name definitely belongs in the history books. Not as a foot note but as a legitimate first. You had no private or public funding yet pulled off what 99% of the rest of us only dreamed of doing, and what some of us perceived as impossible in a home aquarium.

Jeff.
 

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Nice info & pics guys.

Something I have noticed also. My pair of blue striped cinnamon tomato,s let the smaller orange skunk live with them. But after I combined my tanks, I introduced a very large pink skunk from my other tank. Of course, I have closely watched them for aggression.

Now my female tomato, seems to have a crush on the large skunk, even to the point of some agressive behavior to her mate now. Almost seems like she wants the male to take its place in the pecking order and the large skunk to become her new mate.

This has been a couple months now for the pink. The orange has lived with them for a couple years.
 

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Jeff,

Thank you for your kind words. It wasn't easy to get these two fish together to "do their thing" and I have many to thank for the results I have acheived.

Bob Mankin helped me get my male fish from Dave Palmer back when Dave had his collecting station in the Solomons.
Dave actually brought the fish on the airplane from the Solomons when he came over for Macna a couple of years ago.

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James
 

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I'll take some thanks...
I fed the little guys over the weekends while James was off traveling. Its was my JuJu that got the little guys over the hump.
wooHoo.........

Congrats James i would have hoped that all three of those little guys which settled out would have made it, but alas. Make sure you enter your info and story at the breeders registry. You never now who it might help.

Eco-tropic: these special technique you've used in getting difficult clownfry to make it, may i contact you about them?
thanks
frank
 

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You are still the King even if you can only get this one to adulthood. There will be other nest.
It is possible that F2 will be easier to rise.
Go for it James. Get a few more and see what F2 is going to be like.
Even if you pair the baby to his mom, you will have much better success.
I know that in canary, the Red factor was bred into canary by cross of canary to another species of bird. Only the male offspring were fertile. These were then bred back to canary. The offspring of this cross were almost all fertile.
Sound kind of unethical isn't it. Anyway, it is something to try.


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