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esmithiii

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I am in Puerto Rico on business and I took a couple of hours to tour the C-Quest facility in Salinas, PR. They do not do organized tours (they are a small operation) but were kind enough to show me around even though today was their shipping day and everyone was very busy.

They have an amazing operation. They raise at least 7 species of clowns, several species of goby, dottybacks and some other assorted species. Their fish looked amazing- healthy and beautiful. I was impressed by the quality of the livestock. Among their brood stock were some of the largest clownfish I have ever seen, and I would venture to guess that I saw many thousands of fish in various stages of development from eggs to larva to juveniles to adult fish. It was wonderful to see.

Although they did not share specific cost data with me (nor did I ask) I did get the impression that it is a difficult business to make profits in. Wild caught fish are less expensive for retailers to buy. When one of the employees mentioned some of the wholesale prices, I was amazed. I do not want to get into any debate as to why the markup is what it is in retail, because I understand the dynamics there, and do not doubt that it is reasonable. I will say, however that while C-Quest definitely has the facilities to attempt more difficult species, there is little profit incentive to try. The risk to reward ratio is so high, and they are so busy maintaining their current operation that it is difficult for them to attempt new species.

My point here is that we as hobbyists need to really push for captive propogated species, and to support efforts and research into finding ways of propogating more species. Push your LFSs and on-line retailers to buy captive bred fish. Ask for them specifically, and state that you would be willing to pay a little more for them. It will cost you less in the long run. I see no reason why we should be collecting anemonefish from the wild. They are easily propogated, and the captive bred fish are so much heartier. I was amazed at the high shipping survival rates that they mentioned.

I'll get off my soapbox now. Just thought I would share this cool experience with you all.

Ernie
 

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Ernie, why puerto rico? Cheaper labor or closer to wild stock? I would imagin a fully controlled lab environment, there shouldn't be too much labor involved in an operation like that. Or does it have to do with EPA waste water emmission regulations.....?

Just curious.
 

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They use NSW for water changes and the tanks do not need to be temp controled. Labor is slightly cheaper, but I am not sure about the waste water implications.

As for taxes, section 936 of federal tax code (which gives tax credits to manufacturing facilities in Puerto Rico) is being phased out over the next 5 years.

Ernie
 

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Believe it or not, the operation is somewhat labor intensive (more than you would think anyway.) They must take care to keep the broodstock pairs happy, remove the eggs, culture greenwater, culture rotifers, feed all tanks (there are many, many tanks) test the water, transfer fish from one container to another, select future broodstock pairs, clean holding tanks, maintain equipment, and package the fish for shipping. Each fish is individually packed in bags filled with O2, then placed in a larger container.
 
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That's a bummer that C-Quest does not have tours. I was planning to go there this August(being I go there every year). It is also a shame that their business is soo difficult. I guess I'll pass then.

If you get the chance before you go, visit the rain forest. It is a fun trip. You could also make a trip to Ponce to see their multicolored Firehouse. The caves in Camuy are also interesting. Next to the rain forest, the castles were my favorite.
 

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Very interesting Ernie, thanks.

Posted by Ernie:
They use NSW for water changes and the tanks do not need to be temp controled

-This is the reason I have heard for their location choice also.
Steve
 
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Interesting report, Ernie. Did you bring any samples home?

No doubt that the advantages of CB fish make them a no-brainer. I hope the industry can reach the point where a much higher percentage of fish are CB (like FW species) before drastic steps like banning the importation/sale of WC become necessary.
 

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That's a bummer that C-Quest does not have tours. I was planning to go there this August(being I go there every year). It is also a shame that their business is soo difficult. I guess I'll pass then.

I would still try them. Give them a call and they may accomodate you. I definitely recommend seeing them. They are very nice, but speaking spanish may be necessary
 

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Also, did not bring home any samples. I am still in the islands, and they are strictly wholesale.

Interensting enough they recently had to fence in the facility due to people stealing the fish!

Ernie
 
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No problem. I speak spanglish and my Puerto Rican Mother in Law will be with us(my wife no speaky). Good I'll give it a shot. I have their phone# in the Conscientious Marine Aquarist.

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Anemone- Good luck! Make sure you get good directions as it is hard to find! It is definitely worth the trip though. Your mouth will water seeing all those beautiful, tank raised fish.

Ernie
 

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Depends on your definition. I just love this hobby and believe that captve propagation is the key to its long term success.

Ernie
 
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I am about as far from a "tree hugger" as you can get and I also think that captive propigation would be best for the environment as well as the hobby. The fish and inverts seem to be hardier and do not have any impact on the environment when they are "home" grown. I am a conservative that believes in conserving. That is why I frag as much of my corals as I can and sell them to my LFS.
 

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