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Blizzo, you're kidding! Spittin' distance, I tell ya..

The bottle idea sounds like lobster and other traps, never had any luck with anything like that in my own tanks. Then again, I've gotten pretty good at nettin' 'em up, too. There are a few that I won't even bother with trying to "just net" (depending on the sys setup of course), though, and damsels (most) are one of 'em. (Along with certain wrasses, and I learned the hard way the best way to handle certain morays, too..:lol: can you say, "DOINK!") I'm talking about home/display sys's here. Bare (ship/holding sys's) tanks..you better be able to catch a fish in a box! :lol:

Truthfully, I'd move the l/r (so it stays submerged in the sys) so that I could block off a portion of the aquarium with the fish herded into it (with handheld nets/acrylic), but you need to have many nets of all sizes on hand. You need to create an area large enough that the fish can't get back to the safety of the rocks again. See, he's net-caught, and he does remember each time, and has probably learned some tricky moves. Tricky fish=Punk Dam(n)sel, yeah? I'd also drop the water level as much as necessary to ensure that the block is leaving no escapes.

Barring that, some tips:
*Be gentle
* Larger can be better, it can sometimes be easier to use a small net to herd a fish into an area where a large net can be lifted to catch it.
*Use more than one net.
*Be gentle
*In lieu of nets, get a piece of acrylic (thin stuff works just fine) that is big enough to go across the tank and to the surface of the water. Be sure edges are smooth and straight (as flush as possible).
*It's always easier to gently move the fish towards the surface of the water, keeping the net angled slightly away from it, to then gently catch by "envelopment".
*Did I mention that you want to be gentle catching the animal? If not, be gentle, please.

You see, you don't want to frighten the animal to the point it hurts itself. Many will jump right out of the tank (no good if it's limited access). You must be quick and decisive in your movements, but be careful--I've accidentally cut a few in two being a bit too decisive..:lol: :oops:
(Fortunately, never in front of a customer!)
I don't really know how else to explain it, you just kinda learn which fishes are gonna what way, and some are just plain weird what they'll do...kinda like horses.
 

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As for Tangs i have a pair in my 80g. If you keep the blue tang, and I'm assuming you mean a regal tang, he will have to be your only tang. For the damsels, before you go digging what else are you planning on putting in there?
 

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i had the exact same problem with some damsels not too long ago. i tried teh soda bottle trick and caught one that way. the other was too evil to fall for the trap. i would just put my hand in the water to tend to things in the tank and he would bite the @#% out of my arm. i hated that fish. i've never wanted a fish to die a slow and painful death until i met that fish. anyway, i had to take out all my rock to catch him. i nearly cried that day. here's a bit of info that everyone should listen to. if you want cycle your tank, don't use damsels- use black mollies. that's right. the freshwater fish. you can slowly acclimate them to salt water and they will do fine. this is how i cycled my tank and they were great fish. they seemed to do better in the slatwater than in the freshwater. started giving birth to little babies all the time. very easy to get out of the tank too. just thought people should know.
 
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You're a lady after my own heart (and experiences!), Mary. I had a cyanis that would not only bite me, he (I knew he was a he cuz he and that waspy-wasted little she-devil--but she wasn't, she was sweet--were laying eggs like crazy) would actually take the hairs on my arms and TWIST 'EM! OWWW!! I remember once I actually got so mad that I tried to flick him with my finger. He began to remind me of this one rooster we had, damn bird just terrorized my sisters, and I was the only one who'd go in to collect the eggs--ALWAYS with a 2x4 in hand. That bird "flew" in more ways than one, and he didn't die til the day we made soup out of 'im! Damn bird. Damn damnsel. :lol:

I often tout the merits of mollies, but I tend to really go overboard, so I kinda tried to turn down the spigot. You are indeed spot on about them, though. Far easier to catch, too, eh? 8)
 

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Flicking the finger works good. I've been nibbled but never bit.....They know better than to bit the hand that feeds them :twisted:
 

Markymarklar

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seamaiden, are you talkin to me? if you are, then you should know it's marKy not mary, which hopefully implies that i'm a guy. and the part about you tryin to flick your damsel. i did the exact same thing with mine. i would let my hand sit there motionless until the fish tried to bite it thenwould try and flick it. boy i hated that fish!! just thought it was funny how you tried to do the same thing :D
 
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MARKY! :oops: Please accept my apologies. And here I thought we was gettin' more women-folk 'round here...
 

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I guess I'm in trouble then. I have 5 damsels, 2x 4 stripes, a domino, a yellow tail and a green chromis. The domino is the tank bully with the two stripes second. The other two fish are peaceful. All of them are under an inch and a half. The domino is the largest and teh piggiest at feeding time.

How will my guys react to a clown? Are some species of clown "tougher" than others?
 
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YES! Dominos and Sergeant Majors being, in my opinion, the worst. No one keeps Garibaldi, but they're pretty pugnacious as well.

IF I recollect correctly, generall damsels of the Dascyllus genus tend to be the most aggressive. Blue devils (sorry, memory files not pulling up the genus!) are next in line. Let me put it this way, a large Domino can easily hold its own with many triggers and puffers (size and acquisition issues aside).

I would NOT drop a clown into that, not without a huge size disparity and making the tank "new" to the damsels (tearing it apart, removing them, then reintroducing at the same time or after the clown is established).

The chromis are going to generally be much more timid, and as such often ultimately suffer first.
 
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Oops! Sorry, the same is true of clowns, Maroons and Tomatoes being among the most territorial.
 

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I like the Maroons the most so I'll probably get one of those (or a pair). How long to I have to remove the domino and 4 stripes (Sergeant?) before putting them back in? I don't mind rearranging the rocks since I don't have that many anyway.
 
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Ooooo..that's tough, cuz some fish seem to...I dunno, they know that it's home, just rearranged, and I've found they'll either lock on to the same rock (or decoration)..some kind of landscape, or the position in the tank. If they do that, they're established.

It would also depend on the clown. I've seen everything from just the time it takes to do a big water change and rearrange a few items while the fish are out of sight to a week.

Fish size, personality, sexual maturity, many variables factor into this equation. I find the Dascyllus to not be very attractive when they get big, and are most easily kept with others, in sufficient numbers that we get a good displacement of aggression.

I would guess, just guessing here, that if you do this while the damsels are small you could hope for 24hrs to do the trick. That should also give the maroon enough time to find himself just the right place. Oh yes, do the chromis a favor (maybe even the yellow tail, too) and get credit at the shop for him/them. Ultimately they'll be hard pressed to avoid being harassed to death by the others.
 

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If you are not too attached to the damsles, just take them back to the LFS. We had four (2 domino, three stripe, and a blue devil). While they are neat looking fish, we added a coral beauty, three times as big as them, they tourmented the heck out of him 8O We had to remove all the rockwork to net them. Stirred up the sand and all that jazz, tank looked like crap for a couple days, just glad the CB made it through all that stress :roll: . Anyway if you are going to add more fish, you might wanna get rid of those guys first, or get a back up/Q tank set up in advance. Just my thoughts though
 

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I'll just see how it goes when the time comes. If the domino and 4 stripes start harassing anyone, there's always the cat!! See how tought they are then.

If there's any fighting, I'll them back and keep the chromis and yellow tail.
 

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So what do you guys think? I have ALL my fish in QT right now, but they are going back in two weeks from now. It was IMPOSSIBLE to catch the damsels the first time, and one of them is SUPER SUPER aggressive towards other fish. Should I not put them back in? I have one yellowtail damsel (very mean fish), one yellow damsel, two green chromis, one lawnmower blenny, one Percula clown, one Clarkii (also pretty mean). Problem is my fiancee loves Tweety (the yellow damsel). He's not the really mean one though, although I wonder if the yellowtail is removed if the yellow damsel will step up his attitude.
 
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How about giving Tweety bird a tank of his own? A little 20 would work just fine for quite a while.

LOULE! It seems as though we should start a "I Hate Damsels" club.

Quick, somebody think of a good acronym!
 

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seamaiden":zc9j0arn said:
How about giving Tweety bird a tank of his own? A little 20 would work just fine for quite a while.

LOULE! It seems as though we should start a "I Hate Damsels" club.

Quick, somebody think of a good acronym!

That's what my QT tank is.... a 20L. They're all lounging in there now. If I leave ol' Tweety in there then I won't have a QT tank anymore. Bah. Had him for half a year and Sarah is all attached. Can't buy another tank...... she'd hurt me :)

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