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OK I haven't posted much on here for about a year so I'll start by describing my tank - 55 reef, 400W 10k mh, 2x55W PC actinics, 90ish lbs live rock. Mostly soft corals, a clam, currently ONE fish (dusky jawfish) and ENORMOUS QUANTITIES OF MACROALGAE.

I think due to my relatively intense lighting, the caulerpa that grows produces very few leaves, and concentrates its energy in growing stringy stalks that spread across my tank and anchor to everything they touch. I also have some halimeda growth and some grape caulerpa. Fortunately the caulerpa bloom seems to have out-competed my valonia outbreak!

Now I'm at the point of pulling out enough caulerpa "stems" each week to fill a 1/2 gallon container, and the stuff overgrows everything, sticks to my clam, covers some corals, etc. I am SICK of it! I don't mind a little greenery in the tank but this stuff is out of control.

With only one fish, I feed VERY lightly, maybe 1/4 - 1/2 cube of prime-reef per day or more like every other day (anything the jawfish misses, the serpent stars pick up pretty quickly). My skimmer barely pulls any foam from the tank at all (it has pulled a lot of foam before so I know it's tuned pretty well, there just doesn't appear to be much to skim now). I only run the MH about 5 hrs a day and the actinics come on and turn off an hour before and after. I've learned my lesson with tangs, won't touch them in a 55, and the only other macro eater I know of is the foxface but that's also a larger fish than I'd like to see in my 55g. Is there anything else that can help me out here? The stuff is so stringy it's virtually impossible to keep under control by hand because there are seemingly billions of strands to pull off of everything, and I have to take my whole hood off to get good access to the rockwork, which is a huge hassle.


Any help at ALL would be much appreciated!
 

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If you don't mind coralline being scraped off and a couple loosely placed corals knocked off, then you can try the urchin.

BTW, welcome back.
 

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my angels like to graze on my algea, nothing like a tang but they will eat it, exspecially the sea grapes
 

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danmhippo":3dw4yjpr said:
If you don't mind coralline being scraped off and a couple loosely placed corals knocked off, then you can try the urchin.

BTW, welcome back.

Thanks for the welcome! My tank was exiled at my parents house while we waited for our home to be built and then it was another few months before I could handle moving it into the new place. I think those 6-8 months of neglect really let the algae get a foothold although it was pretty prolific already. When I moved the tank I painstakingly stripped each rock, only to have it come back with a vengeance within a few weeks.

I'm willing to try an urchin, I suppose. They do a job on the kelp forests out here in CA so I imagine they might help with my little issue. What species are best for macro control?

I had a flame angel before the move (may he rest in peace) but he never touched the macros, except to pick at the pods and mysid shrimp running around in them!
 
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I don't know of any fish that will work for you. Personally I'm having a problem with sargasso weed- neither tangs or foxface will touch the stuff. Urchins are my next step- if I can find a tuxedo urchin around for less than the $45 my LFS wants!
 

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DanConnor":1uk3en4z said:
I don't know of any fish that will work for you. Personally I'm having a problem with sargasso weed- neither tangs or foxface will touch the stuff. Urchins are my next step- if I can find a tuxedo urchin around for less than the $45 my LFS wants!

I already went through the sargasso stage... that was what originally came on my rocks. I didn't mind it so much because it doesn't spread as quick as caulerpa, and it had pretty clearly defined stalks and anchor points so I could just reach down and break it off at the base of each stand, and it would take a good month to come back in any significant amount. I actually had it pruned into a really nice "canopy" that grew from the back of my rockwork like a little kelp forest. This caulerpa has actually competed the sargassum out of existence in my tank. 8O
 

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Either tuxedo or pencil urchin are great. Actually, most urchins are fine. As long as you like their coloring and patterns. One thing about urchins is that it will graze on the surface only destroying the holdfast systems, but it may not finish off the leafy part. You may need to manually remove the floating debris periodically to prevent them leaching nutrients back into the water.
 

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danmhippo":n38c706u said:
Either tuxedo or pencil urchin are great. Actually, most urchins are fine. As long as you like their coloring and patterns. One thing about urchins is that it will graze on the surface only destroying the holdfast systems, but it may not finish off the leafy part. You may need to manually remove the floating debris periodically to prevent them leaching nutrients back into the water.

Well that doesn't bug me, most floating debris in my tank ends up getting drawn into the sump/fuge where it would most likely get caught in the massive tangle of macroalgae already in place down there (another vain effort to compete the macros out of the display tank).
 
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How are the long spined guys in your experience? My lfs has a bunch of them, not too big. A tuxedo is a very gentle critter, ime.

ODB- maybe you can borrow a foxface? They do a pretty good job on caulerpa...
 

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I had experiences with short spined. I like them. They don't scrap as bad as some of other stories I've heard.

Sorry, I have no experiences with long spined and pencil urchin.
 

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DanConnor":1lzqrtpp said:
How are the long spined guys in your experience? My lfs has a bunch of them, not too big. A tuxedo is a very gentle critter, ime.

ODB- maybe you can borrow a foxface? They do a pretty good job on caulerpa...

Probably not a bad idea to get a temporary resident foxface... I can't see one living in my 55 long-term but maybe just a purchase and trade-back.

Long-spined urchins give me the willies! Scare the crap out of me when I'm diving or snorkeling in surge conditions, I could NOT voluntarily put one in my tank at home. They scare me more than sharks or anything else in the water.
 
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I didn't read the whole post, so I might be repeating what someone else said.

Foxfaces are known to eat macros as well. Some report great success with them as well as another type of "rabbitfish" I can't recall right now.
 

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