Who do you blame for the deaths that will come from Nemo?

[Anonymous]

Kudos dave

Mine was worse, so I will not post it.

I don't really expect them to read the whole thing as I called them quite a few names which should of been unmentionable.

Bryan

 

[Anonymous]

I think that Reefs.org should send them a letter!

Bryan

 

[liquid]

Ocean Treasures by Heatherdowns and Byrne.

Why doesn't this suprise me from them?

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

Just sent the following email to [email protected]

I cannot believe that your program would air a segment and do absolutely no research into how what you were teaching had any merit? To show people how to set up a small tank with the type of fish that you showed is appalling.

I am not a animal rights advocate but I do care about how pets are treated. I am a aquarist and have been for many years. To keep these animals it should at the very least be a priority to keep them in an environment that promotes good health.

What you showed is a death trap gimmick that no doubt you will pass off as you were just following the recommendations of what a retailer told you would work. DO SOME RESEARCH!! This is in no way shape or form even close to what these animals need. I hope you do take the responsibility to run a segment where you at least show the proper way to care for these tropical fish and what requirements they need to survive.

If I were a person who gambles, I bet however you will just pass it off as not your responsibility for all the fish you just helped to kill and how much damage to natural reefs that demand will destroy.

Or you could look at it as you just help to create a new story, "Look at the damage to reefs the show Finding Nemo caused". When you run that story please be honest enough to include how misrable your staff was in preparing the segment you ran.

Hmmm, mine was too nice.

 

[Anonymous]

One of our members taped it and we're working on getting it converted to AVI. Hopefully we'll succeed and I will post it here.

Did I mention the "Tank of 100 Nemos" in the background? I do know one of our LFS brought in ~100 tankraised perculas the day before the opening.

And of course this doesnt help . . . http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/200306 ... Q1R80.html

'Nemo' Furiously Takes Back Box Office

Jun 16, 6:50 AM (ET)

By DAVID GERMAIN

(AP) Andrew Stanton, writer and director of the new Pixar animated feature "Finding Nemo," poses with a...
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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Cartoon fish still have audiences hooked as the undersea adventure "Finding Nemo" regained the top spot at the weekend box office with $29.2 million.

The previous weekend's top movie, "2 Fast 2 Furious," fell to No. 2 in its second weekend with $19.1 million, according to studio estimates Sunday. Another holdover movie, "Bruce Almighty," was third with $14.2 million.

New flicks had soft openings. The animated "Rugrats Go Wild," which blends the Nickelodeon "Rugrats" and "Wild Thornberrys" cartoon franchises, took in $12.5 million to debut at No. 4.

Harrison Ford and Josh Hartnett's buddy-cop comedy "Hollywood Homicide" opened in fifth place with $11.7 million. The idiot-buddy prequel "Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd" debuted at No. 6 with $11.1 million.

Lacking a strong new movie, the overall box office was down after two straight up weekends. The top 12 movies grossed $118.6 million, off 24 percent from the same weekend last year, when "Scooby-Doo" opened with $54.2 million.

Theater business is expected to heat up again this weekend with the comic-book adaptation "Hulk.""Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle" arrives a week later, followed by "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" and "Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde" over Fourth of July weekend.

"It's been a summer of fits and starts, a couple of weekends up then down the next," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations. "There's no question that over the next few weeks, starting with 'Hulk,' we're going to see a resurgence."

The Disney-Pixar collaboration "Finding Nemo," which had a No. 1 debut and a record opening for an animated movie two weekends ago before falling to second place last week, has raised its total domestic gross to $192.3 million in 17 days of release.

"Finding Nemo" features the voices of Albert Brooks, Ellen DeGeneres, Willem Dafoe and Geoffrey Rush in a tale of a father fish out to rescue his aquarium-bound son.

"It's poetic justice that a movie about a father and a son would be the No. 1 movie of Father's Day weekend," said Chuck Viane, Disney head of distribution.

Viane said "Finding Nemo" should top $200 million in its 20th day of release, 10 days faster than the last Disney-Pixar flick, "Monsters, Inc."

The new movie also should pass the total "Monsters" gross of $255.9 million to become the top moneymaker of the five Disney-Pixar films, Viane said. Previous Disney-Pixar films were the "Toy Story" movies and "A Bug's Life."

Revenues for the street-racing sequel "2 Fast 2 Furious" tumbled 62 percent from its $50.5 million debut a weekend earlier. Starring Paul Walker, "2 Fast 2 Furious" has grossed $84 million in 10 days.

Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at North American theaters, according to Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc. Final figures will be released Monday.

1. "Finding Nemo," $29.2 million.

2. "2 Fast 2 Furious," $19.1 million.

3. "Bruce Almighty," $14.2 million.

4. "Rugrats Go Wild," $12.5 million

5. "Hollywood Homicide," $11.7 million.

6. "Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd," $11.1 million.

7. "The Italian Job," $9.5 million.

8. "The Matrix Reloaded," $5.5 million.

9. "Daddy Day Care," $2.1 million.

10. "X2: X-Men United," $1.6 million.

 

[liquid]

Hmmm, mine was too nice.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

Shane

 

[liquid]

One of our members taped it and we're working on getting it converted to AVI. Hopefully we'll succeed and I will post it here.

RobboT: I'd love to see it once you get it converted to AVI.

Shane

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, mine was too nice.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

Shane

I dunno some of your warnings have a vinegar taste to them. :wink:

 

[liquid]

I dunno some of your warnings have a vinegar taste to them. :wink:

:lol: 8) :wink: :twisted:

 

[Anonymous]

There are two very sad things that I take away from this.

1.) People will do anything for money.
2. CBS could care less. They will not do a retraction as it would cost them way too much.

The one good thing is that we know Rover is an ethical pet store owner for placing his clowns and tangs above the eye level of most youngsters.

 

[shalegac]

This was posted the other day here.
Here is the link that was given...
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthrea ... genumber=1

 

[Anonymous]

The one good thing is that we know Rover is an ethical pet store owner for placing his clowns and tangs above the eye level of most youngsters.

I was under the impression that Rover put them there so the kids could still see them...

Not that I don't think Rover is an ethical pet store owner, because I know he is. It doesn't matter if the kids can see them...they're in full view of everyone in my store. What matters is you sell them to people that are serious about reefkeeping and the welfare of the animals contained therein.

As soon as the parent asks for "two Nemos" for his child, and I explain what it will take to successfully keep them, the parent walks away with their crying child.

I'd rather save the clownfish and make the kids cry. Most kids that come into the shop are snot-nosed spoiled brats, anyway.

And they tap on my tanks, the little piss-ants...

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, too many pet store owners care more about their cash registers than the lives of the animals. Marillion, I congratulate you for looking after the welfare of the animal!

 

[Modo]

I think alot of this anger/frustration needs to be focused on Tetra and Mrs Carol Huntley-Weber and friends. Tetra should know better! Tetra should have siezed that opportunity and used it towards education of the hobby not the detriment! Tetra obviously is more concerned in it's immediate bottom line than it's future in a delicate hobby. I for one will never purchase a Tetra product again.....not that I do to begin with....and steer anyone else that I help away from there products.


Off the CBS website....

Carol Huntley-Weber of Tetra Fish Products visited The Saturday Early Show to show the ease of owning and maintaining an aquarium.

So, easy that I only spent the past 5yrs continually researching, working, modifying, maintaining, tinkering, learning with every free minute I have and continue to do so and STILL think I haven't even scratched the surface of understanding the ecosystem that I try and replicate......ease of owning.

But, then again we are just replicating a cartoon right......goldfish with stripes right........

 

[Anonymous]

Now I haven't seen the movie yet but from what little I heard isn't wanting to own a Nemo kinda like seeing Schindlers list and then wanting to own your own Jew?

 

[Anonymous]

What I sent tetra:

To your CEO:

I think it is highly offensive that you push marine fish on a television spot for several reasons. First of all and most importantly, let's talk about your website. This site appears to be a FRESHWATER ONLY site. You have NO information about saltwater fish species or care ANYWHERE ON YOUR SITE. (www.tetra-fish.com) This is your address which is posted on CBS's related show link page for your 'spot' (We won't call it a glorified commercial yet.) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/ ... urces/main 558701.shtml (CBS story link) How can you justify pushing saltwater tanks when you don't have even a little bit of reference on your website? You've given the audience a place to go online that has NO reference on marine tank care. How many people are going to buy a 'nemo' (ocellaris clown) and put them in a freshwater tank? Hopefully the retailers that sell the fish will correct this little problem before it happens!

Secondly, your stocking list for the tank you used on the show was UNBELIEVABLE. Have you ever had a marine fish tank? How many fish died from stress while in your care? You listed 2 clowns, 1 hippo tang, 2 serpent stars, and 2 sea horses in a small tank. Do you think these fish will survive more than a few months? The seahorses will starve. (Your quiz for the day is to find out why those two seahorses will starve to death in the tank you set up on the show.) The serpent stars will become too big for the tank. The hippo tang should be in no less than a 100 gallon tank, preferably one that is five or six foot long. The tang will die of stress from being cooped up in a tank over ten times too small. The clowns, if the only fish in a tank that size, will be okay.

Your glorified commercial on the CBS Early Show will do more to take the lives of innocent fish, and tarnish the benefits of a wonderful hobby, than it will sell a few small tanks and filters for you.



I wasn't too nice.
(tetra hasn't replied yet.)

B

 

[mkirda]

Now I haven't seen the movie yet but from what little I heard isn't wanting to own a Nemo kinda like seeing Schindlers list and then wanting to own your own Jew?

8O Horrible analogy, but ... yeah, it is about like that.
The portrayal of the dentist's niece would pretty much make you think that having kids is a horrible idea anyway and that China's population control policy was a pretty nifty idea. :lol:

Regards.
Mike Kirda

 

[Anonymous]

8O Horrible analogy, but ... yeah, it is about like that.

I'm a bit infamous for my harsh analogies

The portrayal of the dentist's niece would pretty much make you think that having kids is a horrible idea anyway and that China's population control policy was a pretty nifty idea. :lol:

Regards.
Mike Kirda

But I already think having kids is a horrible idea and I think Chinas attempts to curb the overpopulation of the earth is good

And no matter what I will always love anything Pixar produces.

 

[Anonymous]

I was under the impression that Rover put them there so the kids could still see them...

Nope. We have two rows of tanks. One about three feet high (right at kid eye level) and one about 5 feet high (at parent eye level). The clowns and hippos are are on the five foot level for a reason. :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

Nope. We have two rows of tanks. One about three feet high (right at kid eye level) and one about 5 feet high (at parent eye level). The clowns and hippos are are on the five foot level for a reason. :wink:

Gotcha. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Sometimes I read reefs.org when I'm drunk, or high, or pissed off. Comprehension doesn't really follow along...

My Nemos are right at kids' eye level, but they ain't gettin' none. :twisted:

Actually, we've sold far more clownfish to regular customers that didn't have any than to new people coming in right from the theater...

Peace,

Chip