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Dude, with guessmann lights im sutre you want something non-expensive, damn are those some great lights. Oh and welcome from London.

Just reading about the loss of your bubble coral, dont quote me on this but im sure someone else will clairfy, but with so many softies in your tank i think the LPS was probably under quite allot of chemical attack anyways. Then once being punctured it would have had no defence from the stinging neminess's from your softys. How are the SPS's looking, im not too sure because yo uhave some real grey area corals here, but i think the devils finger will defenately be sending out nemeinesis. You can do one of either things to rectify your problem, either run carbon to remove the chemical warfare from your system, or remove either the SPS & LPS, or the softys. I think on the whole leathers are ok, but again i cant be sure. Just happens to be a topic im a bit vauge on.

ill see if i can find out a definitive source of coral compatablity for you.

Hello crew! I know you get much praise, after reading so many FAQ's that saved me from making disasters, but I must say it again--thank you for having this web site, your help is most appreciated!!!
<thanks kindly!>
I want to start getting some corals and have a question about the
compatibility of some prospects. I know you should not mix different types of corals, ie. hard and soft, as chemical warfare may be detrimental in the long run.
<best to focus on a niche or biotope. You can mix different species from within such group(s)... we are simply trying to minimize unnatural aggression (not eliminate it, which seems to be impossible)>
I tried searching if polyps are compatible with soft corals within the site, for example xenias (peaceful right?) with yellow polyps/star polyps, and saw that some people kept them but the FAQ did not have direct comments on if this was desirable. So......Are polyps (ie button, yellow, star) soft corals or are
they in their own category--if they are different from softs will they get along with soft corals?
<its not so literal, mate... rather a function of crowding, water flow, water changes/chemical filtration or not, etc. And then, the keeping of natural neighbors (research their history on a reef>
I have a 45 gallon, 2 X 96W PC, 1.024 SG, O ammonia, nitrate, nitrites, dKH 11, pH 8.4, 4.5 inches aragonite, 55 lbs live rock with a mated pair of perculas, a green mandarin (plump!), CBS, a few blue legged hermits and Astraea (no blood baths yet).
<all good>
I do have a small bubble tip anemone who has only moved 1 inch from where I first put him into a crevice to hide his foot and has not moved in 2 months.
<hmmm.. but no guarantee of it not moving later (lights age, water clarity strays, stinging neighbors encroach or get moved near, etc). The anemone is simply not a responsible or "natural" tankmate for sessile corals>
I knew I had to let him settle down first before I even thought of getting corals, but I think I can "safely" say he's pretty happy with his location and will watch him closely upon putting in the corals.
<I hope you are right... but the odds are against you in the long run. Quite likely in the 3-5 yr picture if not far sooner that this anemone will move and perhaps cause a problem or catastrophe>
Again, thanks so much on the "soft/polyp" compatibility question!
Danny
<sticking with soft corals is a safe bet (polyps and soft octocorals). Avoid mixing sps and LPS with them to start with. Best regards, Anthony>

yep thought i was right, hmmmmmm wheres that chart.

Q > Do you have any problems mixing SPS and Soft Coral together in the 125. And do the brain corals cause many problems due to large sweepers?

farmertodd >the soft coral present no problem, however, as i mentioned i would never put a new cut in the system. i move it to the multi. sweepers are always a definate problem and that is why i set up the multi system. trying to accomplish all these coral types in one system is just asking for trouble down the road.

heres a basic one, im sure GARF have a better one.

Also provided by Steve Rader.
I've typed in a useful table from SeaScope (winter, '92) in which Michael Paletta discusses coral aggression in reef aquaria. It describes the two major aggressive mechanisms of corals: the release of terpenoid compounds and the use of sweeper tentacles or mesenteric filaments. I found it useful because it includes a majority of imported live corals.

The entries marked with a tilde are my additions--Telia anemonies are placed above open brain coral because I've observed them burn my red open brain coral. Both types of colonial zooanthid anemonies listed seem to release terpenoids that keep mushroom polyps at bay somewhat. Also, I've included other common names I know of in quotes.


Relative Aggressiveness of Commonly Kept Reef Invertebrates
MOST AGGRESSIVE...

1) Elegance Coral (Catalaphyllia jardinei, "Tooth coral")
2) Hammer Coral (Euphyllia ancora, E. fimbriata, "Torch coral")
3) Other Euphyllia (E. glabrescens, E. cristata., "Frog's spawn coral")
4) Bubble Coral (Plerogyra sinuosa)
5) Grape Coral (Physosyra lichensteini, "Small bubble coral")
6) Mushroom Coral (Fungia actinoformis)
7) Flower Pot Coral (Goniopora sp.)
~) Telia Anemonies (Telia sp, "Strawberry anemonies; Colony anemonies")
8) Open Brain Coral (Trachyphyllia geofroyi)
9) Cup Coral (Tubinaria peltata)
10) Moon Coral (Galaxea fascicalaris, )
11) Closed Brain Coral (Favia sp, "Dead brain coral")
12) Star Polyps (Pachclavalaria sp.)
13) Leather Coral (Sarcophyton sp.)
14) Tree Coral (Sinularia sp., "Fire coral")
15) Gorgoniana (Gorgonacea sp. et. al.)
16) Waving Hand (Anthelia sp.)
17) Xenia (Xenia sp.)
18) Giant Mushrooms (Rhodactis sp., "Elephant ear coral")
~) Sea Mat Anemonies (Zooanthus sp., "Sea mat rock")
~) Ricordia Anemonies (Ricordia sp. "Sea mat rock")
19) Mushroom Anemonies (Actinodiscus sp., "Mushroom polyps")

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nice1bruva

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Valley Boy":ignrbdqi said:
Hi Wayne
I have just joined the site myself,welcome , this site is a wealth of info.


hello mate. just checked back in but am way too busy to say more that hi at the mo.will type a bit more soon.
wayne.

ps. i have a CBR600 myself
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nice1bruva

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also.thanks mouse i tend to aggree with you about the softies poisioning the bubble.....lesson learned.
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wayne
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teevee":udqyxisv said:
Oi nice1bruva. This could turn Hare Krishna into a bad bwoy!
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"cardiff massive"
"ya muther"

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Mouse

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nice1bruva, glad i could shed some light onto it for you. Bubbles are usually very aggressive, but with as anything when its defences are breached, it soon falls.
 

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