carmabi and jumping...

[Terra Ferma]

I am going to grab an L. carmabi in the not so distant future....my question is are they (or lios in general) known to jump ship? I would like to do an open top, but the fish is so expensive I would seriously consider closed top if they are known to jump. Thanks.

BTW...I have kept swalesi, susumi, mitratum and eukrines....only the mitratum jumped, but is was under dubious circumstances in a bucket.

Thanks.

 

[GSchiemer]

Liopropoma as a genus are not major jumpers, like the Cirrhilabrus wrasses; although I did lose a L. rubre to the floor a few years ago. My suggestion would be to cover the aquarium for a few days until the fish settles in. Once it's established a territory and assuming it's not getting harassed by another fish, it's very unlikley to jump out of the aquarium.

Greg

 

[Len]

Mine have neer jumped, but I suppose if they're scared, they could. I wouldn't worry about the top.

 

[sedgro]

Wow - who has L. carmabi? I don't think I have ever seen one except on Japanese websites. And as Len will attest, I has an excellent LFS that makes stocking the rare and exotic a priority (they are getting clarions next week! - of course I can't buy, but am excited to look).

John

 

[Len]

I attest to nothing! 8)

 

[Terra Ferma]

John,

The carmabis are not hard to get, just very expensive. I think that many LFS (and customers!) have a hard time putting out so much money for a fish which lives in Florida waters. They occasionally pop up for cheaper from the Southern Caribbean.

 

[sedgro]

Terra Ferma-

I would love to see one in person and not just on a Japanese website. I don't really have a tank I could keep one in (I have a medium size Rhinopias frondosa) but still would like to see it. BTW - do you have an A. kingi? I was offered one last summer and put up the money for it but my supplier never managed to come through.

John

 

[Terra Ferma]

John,

The kingi is not mine...just a pic taken by H. Tananka. Yea...they Kingi never showed, nor did his buddy the Gem!

The Rhinopias would undoubtely consume the carmabi, but they seem to do well in small tanks...you could just setup a solid 20 gallon and it would do fine in there. IMO there are just as fantastic in person as the best pic you have ever seen of one.

 

[Len]

Carmabis are simply electric. Every now and then, I see them for relatively cheap, but if you wanted one now and could afford it, there shouldn't be any problem acquiring one.

 

[Anonymous]

What kind of price range are we talking here?

 

[Len]

Personally, I've seen them for as little as $250 (not counting mis-ID'ed suckers) and as much as $1500 (I can't imagine someone paying this, but who knows ).

 

[Terra Ferma]

If you want a nice, healthy, US caught one today....it would be about $700.

They seem to move rather quickly in Japan for about 1k.

 

[sedgro]

Ironically, I went to my LFS today and there was a L. carmabi in a cubicle. Price: $700. They are impressive!

John

 

[Terra Ferma]

John,

How is your Pseudanthias fasciatus doing? I have been looking for one for the LONGEST time with no luck. Got any recent pics of him?