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Is your heater fully submerged? On the top of my 100W, it says "Do not immerse past this line" or some such thing. On the 200W, no warning is printed. What gives?
 

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I have the same warning on my 100 watt...sometimes, it submerged, sometimes its not, no problems in the year ive had it. I have had experiences with cheap heaters ad the top is not sealed and u put it in the water and turn it on and... 8O
 

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I have been running Ebo Jagers for years. Both my old, old green heaters and my newer black heaters have a minimum water line, but I see nothing about do not submerge the heater. Maybe it is because I have older models.
 

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i sent a email about this to a online vendor when i was looking for a new heater.. i was told the older model's had the water line and the newer ones didn't.. when i ordered the heater specifing i watned a fully submersible i still got the one with the water line....
 

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Mine is submerged and it's one of the new models. 4 months so far and no problems. This has been a popular topic in the past on this forum and others, so you might do a search and find more opinions. Try key words Ebo, Jager, and/or heater. Some other posts suggested the reason the new ones have the max water line might be related to UL certification. I don't know if this is true. Perhaps this manufacturer wanted the UL certification and the required tests and requirements are very strict for submerged products. My previous heater was a green Ebo Jager, not submerged, and I replaced it after 20 years of service just because I was nervous about it. The new one is now submerged in my sump. I added a GFI just in case the heater or one of my pumps decides to leak. A GFI reacts much faster than a standard circuit breaker.
 
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Matt,
I had the same question, and it turns out they have to label them for sale in Canada for some reason. (GO figure, blame Canuks again. . .) Probably something about the electrical code.

Mine's submerged.

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It is possible that the manufacturer can not get the certification as a totally submerged heater outside of US (Japan/Europe/Canada) and was forced to put the water line on the device... definitely something to look into... anyone know if Ebo-Jager has a phone number or other contact info?
 
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I looked all over the box...no ph#, no email, no website. They had an address, but frankly I don't care enough to write and wait for the response. I've got mine plugged into GFIs as well, so worst case scenario is one of my two heaters fails.
 

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I bought mine 3 years ago, and it was labelled completely submersible, just had a minimum water line on it. Older green model.
 

Kevin1000

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My heater has been fully submerged for about 10 years and still works just fine. Green paint is about all gone. Oh well, guess I'll give it just one more year. MMMM starting to sound like Al Bundy and his Dodge.
 

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Both my old green and new black Ebos (all 200 watts) say "min waterlevel" not max level. Which I understand as you have to submerge it to at least that level, if not fully submerged. So the problem isn't in submerging the heater, its not having enough of it underwater to keep the heat dissipating into the water. I assume there would be a chance the the heater might overheat and burnup if its not covered in water.
 

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Last week my three year old ebo-jager 150 ("fully submersible" with minimum water marking) leaked and blew the circuit breaker. It happened on the coldest day of the year on the one day I wasn't home. All the fish, and hard corals died of the cold or electrocution. The clams, crabs, shrimp and mushrooms survived though.

I decided to buy two of the new titanium submersible heaters and put them on separate circuits.

I'm not big fan of ebo-jager submersibles any more.
 

JohnD

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pcragg -

Sorry to hear about your loss.

If it makes you feel any better, my oldest ebo-jaeger (at least 10+ years old) gave up the ghost a week ago. I was home and got out my replacement/back-up heater going. Of course, some will say that you should have had 2 heaters in the tank to avoid such a situation. You know, they are right.

We in the northeast have been having some serious cold. I think we were living in one of those times where the heater(s) just could not keep up. The one room on the first floor of my house that has a tank is the coldest room - big time heat problems. Anyway, the heater, IMHO, was working like crazy to keep the tank warm. All good thing come to an end and it was the end of my 200 watt E-J heater.

I, too, am looking at the titanium heaters.

Regards,

JohnD
 

pcragg

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The Ebo-Jager 150 that blew the breaker was the backup for a 250. I never even considered that they could leak. Until I run a separate power circuit I will plug dual heaters into separate gfci outlets.

Live and learn.
 

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