Getting Copper out of a tank?

[Anonymous]

You are welcome to your "opinions", but others with more direct experience don't agree.


http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthrea ... er+in+tank

lol


ah yes the venerable doctor


what about my and my past customer's experience ? are those also 'opinions'?


that entire thread you've linked to only has a blanket and typically vague statement by the esteemed Dr. as the backup for your 'dissent'

i fail to see 'others' and i fail to see any direct experience quoted by your source :wink:

here's food for thought:

a 10, and a 50, gal.tank are kept at .14 ppm Cu for 4 weeks


a 10 and a 50 gal. tank are kept at 2.0 ppm Cu for 4 weeks


which tank's total glass amount contains the most copper ?

leaching rates/speeds are also dependent on other materials in the tank,the pH,etc., not just on copper alone :wink:

the blanket statement by the venerable doctor implies no consideration necessary regarding the initial amounts/time frames of Cu dosage/treatment-according to his post, ALL tanks that have contained even miniscule amounts of copper will kill everything in a tank, w/out regard to for how long the glass, etc., has been in contact with the copper. :lol:

sounds alot like his assertion that all dsb's will kill off all reef tanks, and that most artificial salt mixes are long term poisons that will off a tank and poison lr, as well :wink:

all contentions that too many practically disprove daily for them to have any validity at all

i've yet to see anyone run a polyfilter that doesn't change to the reactive Cu color to lose an invert due to proven, or even suspect, Cu poisoning


i wonder how many aquarists that lost animals while using a 'Cu infected' ( :lol: ) tank actually ran tests to determine that the inverts did actually meet their demise from a Cu overdose, and not some other cause :idea:


doubtful, since analysis of the tissues is not such a practical venture for most


:roll:


p.s.,

even if glass and silicone as materials DO absorb, and DO leach out, copper, the real question is for how long, what amounts, and whether or not the issue can be dealt withfor reefkeeping

the answer is a resounding yes, quite easily, 99% of the time

(100% ime )

 

[Anonymous]

You are welcome to your "opinions", but others with more direct experience don't agree.


http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthrea ... er+in+tank

lol


ah yes the venerable doctor


what about my and my past customer's experience ? are those also 'opinions'?


that entire thread you've linked to only has a blanket and typically vague statement by the esteemed Dr. as the backup for your 'dissent'

i fail to see 'others' and i fail to see any direct experience quoted by your source :wink:

here's food for thought:

a 10, and a 50, gal.tank are kept at .14 ppm Cu for 4 weeks


a 10 and a 50 gal. tank are kept at 2.0 ppm Cu for 4 weeks


which tank's total glass amount contains the most copper ?

leaching rates/speeds are also dependent on other materials in the tank,the pH,etc., not just on copper alone :wink:

the blanket statement by the venerable doctor implies no consideration necessary regarding the initial amounts/time frames of Cu dosage/treatment-according to his post, ALL tanks that have contained even miniscule amounts of copper will kill everything in a tank, w/out regard to for how long the glass, etc., has been in contact with the copper. :lol:

sounds alot like his assertion that all dsb's will kill off all reef tanks, and that most artificial salt mixes are long term poisons that will off a tank and poison lr, as well :wink:

all contentions that too many practically disprove daily for them to have any validity at all

i've yet to see anyone run a polyfilter that doesn't change to the reactive Cu color to lose an invert due to proven, or even suspect, Cu poisoning


i wonder how many aquarists that lost animals while using a 'Cu infected' ( :lol: ) tank actually ran tests to determine that the inverts did actually meet their demise from a Cu overdose, and not some other cause :idea:


doubtful, since analysis of the tissues is not such a practical venture for most


:roll:


p.s.,

even if glass and silicone as materials DO absorb, and DO leach out, copper, the real question is for how long, what amounts, and whether or not the issue can be dealt withfor reefkeeping

the answer is a resounding yes, quite easily, 99% of the time

(100% ime )

Well good for you then, its settled. Throw in a little vinigar and good as new. Arsnic clean up the same easy way?

 

[Anonymous]

do you have an arsenic problem ?

 

[Anonymous]

do you have an arsenic problem ?

No just testing the expanse of your vast experience on chemical reactions in marine tanks.

 

[Anonymous]

do you have an arsenic problem ?

No just testing the expanse of your vast experience on chemical reactions in marine tanks.

ah

i hope i passed

:roll: :?

 

[Anonymous]

do you have an arsenic problem ?

No just testing the expanse of your vast experience on chemical reactions in marine tanks.

You never answered the question.


ah

i hope i passed

:roll: :?

 

[Anonymous]

If they are gonna spend the cash on a new reef setup they should spend the money on a new tank. Better safe than sorry IMO. If things go bad then you lose a client and future recommendations.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, some of the myths have been blown out of proportion, certainly silicone sealant will not absorb coppper and then leach it out later, but a sand bed or LR can slowly release built up copper for years.

it just turns blue and stays blue forever

 

[DaisyPolyp]

Yes, some of the myths have been blown out of proportion, certainly silicone sealant will not absorb coppper and then leach it out later, but a sand bed or LR can slowly release built up copper for years.

it just turns blue and stays blue forever

what turns blue?

 

[Anonymous]

all the seals