chemi, something for cyano.

[Tackett]

I had a suggestion for chemi-clean i think, to rid myself of my annoying cyano. (which is getting worse, starting to spread like an std in a prostitute.)

is it this:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... 2004&Nty=1

or this:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... 2004&Nty=1

dumb question, from a dumb man...

 

[danmhippo]

You need an OB/GYN for your problem.......

In the old days, there ain't no commercially available chemical solutions like there are today. and we fight cyno the traditional way, keeping water crystal clear!

Never used these chemical products before. Can't give you any input. But just by keeping water clear and siphone away cyno's when you make water change usually is enough to dissipate cyno's.

 

[Oceans Ferevh]

For the less then perfect last resort. I have used it and it worked very very well. I consider it a last resort though. By all means if it is really bad use it; it's worth the price

 

[Tackett]

My water IS clean, I take offense to that statement (not really jking. ) I do siphon it, but its hard to suck up, doesnt seem to want to go. Its no where but the substrate. Oh well, maybe it will go away eventually.

As for the old days..well..erm..this aint the old days anymore. It also stands true that In the old days we only ate dinner if we killed it.

 

[Tackett]

IT aint bad, it just annoys me a little. I dont add chemicals to mine either, try to avoid doing anything but changing water to it. Im probably going to have to start adding a two part additive, because as my clams grow, my Ca level is starting to decline alot faster than it used to. I just mentioned the chemi thing because last time I complained about the ole cyano algae, that was what was suggested. So just let it run its course?

 

[Blazin__]

thier is something i used in my tank when it got realy bad. it was a one use medication, they said that it doens harm inverts and corals. and does not comtain copper. i was kind of scared to use it but i tried it and it worked... it also overactivated my skimmer like crazy. it cleared up my cyano in about 3 days with 1 dose its been almost a year since its come back. but i still dont realy recomend using this. i wouldent do it again

this is what i used does anyone else have any feedback on this..

http://www.bigalsonline.ca/catalog/prod ... 233;pcid2=

 

[Expos Forever]

thier is something i used in my tank when it got realy bad. it was a one use medication, they said that it doens harm inverts and corals. and does not comtain copper. i was kind of scared to use it but i tried it and it worked... it also overactivated my skimmer like crazy. it cleared up my cyano in about 3 days with 1 dose its been almost a year since its come back. but i still dont realy recomend using this. i wouldent do it again

this is what i used does anyone else have any feedback on this..

http://www.bigalsonline.ca/catalog/prod ... 233;pcid2=

Here's a thread about A.P. EM.

http://reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t ... ht=bubbles

 

[Anonymous]

Several people in our local club have reported cyano blooms after adding plant life to their systems. They also report the cyano dissapates in a few weeks. Again after adding plant life, nitrates dropping to 0.0 and then having to harvest the plant life every few weeks or so.

From what I understand cyano can takes nitrogen from the air and feed from phosphates on the water column. As plant life expands and runs out of ammonia/nitrAtes it slows its growth. And therefore its bioabsorbtion of phosphates. At that point you have a low nitrogen higher phosphate environment. And bingo favorable conditions for the cyano. By harvesting the plant life you increase its growth and therefore the bioabsorbion of phosphates. Therefore, reducing the phosphates and providing a less favorable environment for the cyano. So as I experienced and fellow club members reported, the cyano blooms and then dies off.

So cyano bloom can be a visual indicator nitrates are lowering. And when the cyano dissapates, that is an indicator the phosphates are being lowered again.

 

[Oceans Ferevh]

Nice. That sure explains a lot

P.S.
Tackett I ment if your cyano was really bad use it NOT your water. :wink:

 

[Juck]

Chemi clean worked fine for me,,, though increased flow, water changes and a better skimmer worked just fine on another tank as well.

When dosing, make sure you allow for your LR and Sandbed when estimating the amount of water in your system,,, I've heard a couple of horror stories about folk overdosing chemi-clean because they dosed for 125 gallons of water in their 125g tank, when they only had about 75g of actual water.

 

[Tackett]

Eh, Im too scared to screw with it. Ill just keep sucking it up off the floor and doing my water changes and hopefully it will go away. Its only on the sand bed. Not on the rock at alll, weird no?

 

[HClH2OFish]

Leave it sit in the tank a bit longer on the substrate between cleaning. It will form bubbles under the mat and be easier to lift off the substrate
Had to do this on my jellyfish tank until we moved. I just broke the entire tank down and will start from scratch with it (the cyano won..lol)

 

[Tackett]

no I dont want to give in!!! What in the hell caused it to begin with? Im at my wits end here. I have good reef keeping habits, what the heck?

 

[HClH2OFish]

I understand the frustration..I wasn't advocating *you* breaking down your tank, just getting rid of the problem as you'll be xferring to another tank soon if I read your post right.

I would have kept at it in my jelly tank, but it was smothering some of the immature jellies so I had to do *something* drastic. And we were moving soon anyway so I cut my losses.

Is it on all the substrate right now or just patches? I'd wait a day or so and see if it creates bubbles...you may find there are patches of detritus under the worst areas of cyano..suck those up as well.

Just keep sucking the stuff out and maybe do some larger water changes or decrease the time spent between water changes.

This stuff is a *major* hassle and regrows at insane rates. At least that was my experience, but my tank was *very* low flow due to jellies.

I'd try dosing something only as last resort but only cuz you've got those corals in there. I hate adding stuff to my tank unless absolutely necessary.

Good luck w/it!!