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I use a Tetratec PF150 as a fuge..a couple pieces of LR some macro algae and a light on the back...(art deco lighting which is available through Marine Depot, Petco, possibly your LFS). So I imagine the skilter would work fine for such a thing, just dont use it too skim also :wink:
some hobbyists tend to section off parts of their sump when going this route...have both fuge and sump together...You can buy a hang on back fuge by CPR for your tank if you dont prefer a HOB filter into fuge...since it sounds like you are going to have a 100gal reef, why not just have a seperate fuge or include it in the sump?
The tank is up and running already.. i thought the chaeto would be fine in the location it's in.. but it's a bit of a nuisance. I hate how everytime the chaeto gets disturbed in anyway.. it lets pieces into the display. If I had a fish that liked eating the stuff I wouldn't think much of it, but nope.
Also would like to be able to take the stuff out for a shake rinse in some SW out of the tank now and then.. but cant do that without having it flood into the display now.
I looked at the CPR hang on, but I dont have space for it.. which was why i was looking at the intank fuges.. so I could just plop it in the sump - i have space for that. I'm thinking it would be a pain in the butt to start making walls in the sump. Wouldn't know where to start.. and thinking it may be more trouble than it's worth. I only have very basic hand tools (hammer, scissors, hacksaw, screwdrivers...)
Also would like to be able to take the stuff out for a shake rinse in some SW out of the tank now and then.. but cant do that without having it flood into the display now.
I looked at the CPR hang on, but I dont have space for it.. which was why i was looking at the intank fuges.. so I could just plop it in the sump - i have space for that. I'm thinking it would be a pain in the butt to start making walls in the sump. Wouldn't know where to start.. and thinking it may be more trouble than it's worth. I only have very basic hand tools (hammer, scissors, hacksaw, screwdrivers...)
ok then perhaps going with my first suggestion or your original with using the skilter or a PF...takes up less space and will definitely hold your Chaeto..I used a Tetratec PF which has a sponge that wont allow the chaeto escape...my calupera sp doesnt escape because of this...works great IMO...But if you decide to go intank im sure that will suit your needs..
some people use the bigger aquaclear hob's as refugiums since their flows can be easily throttled back to a near trickle. that would be a better choice than a skilter (and most other hob's imo).
you could go in-tank (actually in-sump, right?). try a qt floater (e.g. betta breeder/cage) or a HOT net cage. hth
you could go in-tank (actually in-sump, right?). try a qt floater (e.g. betta breeder/cage) or a HOT net cage. hth
Yeh, unfortunately no room for a hob, because I already have a phosban reactor hanging in the only available spot. What would be the benefit of something like a hang-on over the insump? I have plenty of sump space if thats the issue. Anyone know of an in-tank that will house sand as well and not get it into the surrounding h20?
space was the main reason i suggested the hob.
the other reason was ease of setup. you mentioned that you didn't want to do too much diy. hang the hob and you're set to go with a instant 'fuge.
what's the sand for? dsb'ing, anchor substrate, or fauna medium? also, why do you want it separate? just curious the specific reason you don't want to introduce it to the general sump area.
i'd offer different suggestions for each different reason/goal but i don't want to write a book here to cover the possibilities i'm thinking of (which may not even be what you're thinking anyways). :lol:
the other reason was ease of setup. you mentioned that you didn't want to do too much diy. hang the hob and you're set to go with a instant 'fuge.
what's the sand for? dsb'ing, anchor substrate, or fauna medium? also, why do you want it separate? just curious the specific reason you don't want to introduce it to the general sump area.
i'd offer different suggestions for each different reason/goal but i don't want to write a book here to cover the possibilities i'm thinking of (which may not even be what you're thinking anyways). :lol:
The reason I need it separate is because my return pump is plumbed in the wall of the chamber where its gonna be. Right now I have piece of eggcrate stopping the bulk of the chaeto from getting into the return pump, but bits and pieces get through, and its annoying.
Putting sand in there would be a disaster
If i had a separate chamber, like an insump fuge, it would be nice to put in sand, the chaeto i have, and get some more denitrificatin, and even a pod population going. An insump would also let me have one of larger size.
Putting sand in there would be a disaster
If i had a separate chamber, like an insump fuge, it would be nice to put in sand, the chaeto i have, and get some more denitrificatin, and even a pod population going. An insump would also let me have one of larger size.
is the sump a standard tank or a custom setup? can you use tank dividers to hold the sand/substrate away from the return pump?
i attached a jpg (below) of an old setup i had of my display tank's sump. the last 'chamber' on the right was the return pump. the middle was a crushed coral zone, and the left was the algae scrubber-rockwork-miscellaneous zone. altho that sump setup is long gone (torn down '03?), it worked alright while it was up. i just ran out of room and one flood too many finally sent me over the edge.
you could also drop a smaller container inside the sump (e.g. 1-gal hex tank) to hold the sand and algae. level it out to match the surface height and drill some holes for flow towards the upper region (kinda like a flower pot). i was thinking about that for a mangrove option but didn't have the lighting and physical space. hth
i attached a jpg (below) of an old setup i had of my display tank's sump. the last 'chamber' on the right was the return pump. the middle was a crushed coral zone, and the left was the algae scrubber-rockwork-miscellaneous zone. altho that sump setup is long gone (torn down '03?), it worked alright while it was up. i just ran out of room and one flood too many finally sent me over the edge.
you could also drop a smaller container inside the sump (e.g. 1-gal hex tank) to hold the sand and algae. level it out to match the surface height and drill some holes for flow towards the upper region (kinda like a flower pot). i was thinking about that for a mangrove option but didn't have the lighting and physical space. hth
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Hi,
Since I've been so busy lately, I think i'd rather just buy something I could throw in... want to avoid any kind of diy work for right now.
Heres the only other one I found (aside from the one above):
http://petsolutions.com/product.asp_Q_p ... efugium_E_
Only problem is ... it looks a bit small, and I'm not sure it would be able to house sand.
Would pods even be able to get from the sump through the return pump and up to the display alive (food source)?
Thanks
Since I've been so busy lately, I think i'd rather just buy something I could throw in... want to avoid any kind of diy work for right now.
Heres the only other one I found (aside from the one above):
http://petsolutions.com/product.asp_Q_p ... efugium_E_
Only problem is ... it looks a bit small, and I'm not sure it would be able to house sand.
Would pods even be able to get from the sump through the return pump and up to the display alive (food source)?
Thanks
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