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stlver1

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I am going to switch my 75gallon bowfront from a cichlid tank to a reef. I have had Fish only SW tanks several times in the past and i would like to try keeping a reef as its the one thing i havent done. the tank is 75 gallons with two fluval 204's for filtration the current lighting is marine glow. i was planning on purchasing either a Prizm or Bak Pak skimmer. Im looking for advice on how much live rock i should house in this take, tips on filtration or skimmers. ive been reading articals on building a sump using a spare tank. any advice on this or any info that would help me out is GREATLY appreciated

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Advice:

1 - Plan out your reef before purchasing anything.
2 - Don't skimp on lighting, skimmer nor water circulation. Please rethink your skimmer and lighting ;)
3 - Purchase a RO/DI water filter.
4 - Search for pictures of tanks that appeal to you and correspond to your plan in advice #1. Do what they do ;)
5 - Ask questions about EVERYTHING. Gather the answers from experienced reef keepers and do what makes the most sense to you, not what is easiest nor what you wanted to hear.
6 - Nobody in the hobby knows everything but most experienced hobbiests have areas of expertise. Ask them.
 
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Read
Read
Read
then...question and read some more :wink: . Here's a good thread about books:

http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... ight=calfo

Guy is right about planning, it makes a world of difference. I find that if I'm planning a new tank, I do best making a "wish list" for inhabitants and then plan the tank around that. For instance if I must have a anemone, I need to plan for adequate lighting.

As far as how much live rock, that depends. Are you planning any type of sandbed, deep or shallow in the tank? What are you planning on keeping in the tank? Lots of fish, few corals or vice versa? See, that's where the planning part comes in handy.

One thing for sure, IMO. I would ditch the canister filters altogether because they tend to be nitrate factories, and go with a Sump if you can. That way you are not limited to a hang on back skimmer and can add other equipment.
 
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All sumps are diy! Old tanks, custom made, rubber maid containers and trash cans all work as a sump. Just depends on what you want and how much room you have.
 
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Try posting in the DYI forum? I tend to glue my fingers together or cut myself or otherwise inflict damage so I'm not allowed to play with tools ;) so I can't help you out there.
 
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stlver1":1b2uv26c said:
anyone no were i can find any info on putting together a sump



How you put together a sump depends on what your needs are. How big is the tank for your sump, what you want to do with it, and how much room you have to work with. I have used glass tanks and plastic bins, as well as large stock tanks as sumps.

If the sump is small, you probably want to put some baffles between where the water enters the sump and where it gets pumped back to the tank. There should be room for an in sump skimmer, preferably on the opposite side of a baffle as the return pump to reduce bubbles in the tank.
 
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I'm simply going to elaborate on Guys points, because these are excellent starting places:

Guy":7p6o6t3u said:
1 - Plan out your reef before purchasing anything.
2 - Don't skimp on lighting, skimmer nor water circulation. Please rethink your skimmer and lighting ;)
3 - Purchase a RO/DI water filter.

Plan in advance as much as possible, yes.

Start with how much money you have, and break it down into increments. Allotting a certain amount for a GOOD skimmer (avoid Prizm and SeaClones), a good pump for your sump, RO/DI system, and lighting.
Power compacts, metal halides or a combo of both. I have seen FAR too many people skimp on lighting at the beginning, then they are unable to figure out why they can't keep this coral alive, or that coral alive...the guy at the LFS said they could!! They usually end up buying a complete new lighting system after just six monthes :!: Plan for a canopy that will let heat escape, either open-backed, or built in fans.

Trust us when we tell you that buying good quality equipment will make reefkeeping a MUCH more enjoyable experience down the line. Do not skimp on these items. For example, the RO/DI system will help you get through the worst of the beginner-setup algae phases, it's really a worthwhile investment. Algae problems cause almost as many people to give up on the hobby as just about anything else. Leading cause would be fish-death. Pricey mistakes...so buy a quarantine tank!!
If you think you cannot afford decent equipment, save up until you can!
Keep in mind that expenditures are ongoing...reefs cost money to maintain, not just to set up.

For a sump, get your tank drilled, figure out the costs for that, plus all the plumbing required. Draw a diagram of how you wish to set up your plumbing, figure out what parts you will need, name them all, how many feet of tubing, etc, then go shopping. Be prepared to go back to the store to get the parts you didn't buy the first time :D Buy a few feet extra tubing.
Set your system up DRY first, do not glue anything until you have measured, fit, measured, re-fit, taken apart, re-fit...you get the picture :mrgreen: And buy the right glue for the pieces you are using: PVC, ABS, or both, etc. You can buy most of your plumbing supplies at Home Depot, pool stores, etc. Don't skimp here, either. Make sure you have ball valves on both sides of your pump so you can change it out if necessary. Try to make sure your finished design will give you easy access and the ability to change as much as possible should something go wrong. In other words, make sure it can be taken apart again if something leaks, or if you wish to re-arrange it for some reason. Some areas will require permanence, of course. Life ain't always a bowl of cherries.. :lol: And remember, gaskets go on the water side 8O

Think this way: If something screws up, can I fix it easily?
Can I remove my protein skimmer to clean it? Can I get the skimmer cup out without breaking an elbow? Can I access all areas of the sump in case a fish ends up living in it? Do I have room for a fuge? Is my sump a bit higher than the floor, in case I need to syphon out crud?? Can I put carbon, filterfloss, phosguard, Chemi Pure, or whatever, in there easily? Do I have enough baffles? Too many baffles? Is my brain about to explode??

Guy":7p6o6t3u said:
4 - Search for pictures of tanks that appeal to you and correspond to your plan in advice #1. Do what they do ;)
5 - Ask questions about EVERYTHING. Gather the answers from experienced reef keepers and do what makes the most sense to you, not what is easiest nor what you wanted to hear.
6 - Nobody in the hobby knows everything but most experienced hobbiests have areas of expertise. Ask them.

The amount of live rock depends on your tank-scaping. Be choosy about the live rock you buy, pick out interesting shapes and take the time to arrange them nicely in your tank. You have to look at this tank everyday, it might as well be arranged prettily.

Do not overstock, or add animals too quickly. But some good test kits, keep a journal of your test results, and learn how to dose calcium and alkalinity. Top up your evaporated water twice a week, or as needed.

Most importantly, be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day :)

Keep asking questions, and be prepared for honest, blunt answers.
 
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I think Unleashed's post needs to be stickedy/archived or what ever it is you do to great posts!!!!
 

Entacmaea

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Great advice here, I would just put in the eco-friendly advice to buy aqua-cultured livestock when at all possible. Almost all corals can be purchased propagated now, especially SPS corals, from places like www.drmaccorals.com, or from other hobbyists. Live rock and sand you can get aquacultured as well, and many fish, as well as snails and other critters from places like Inland Aquatics, and www.ipsf.com. You will wait a little longer for the coral frags to grow into show colonies, but trust me, it will be MUCH more satisfying to raise a coral from a wee littl'un :D

You will, in general, pay as much or a little bit more for aquacultured specimens, but it is really the least we can do, especially with the declining state of reefs today. Tank-raised specimens also tend to fair better because they are acclimated, or are pre-selected (in the Darwinian sense) for their hardiness in aquariums. Also, avoid the temptation to buy anemones for the first year or two(can be difficult to keep), and after that only if you can get a propagated clone- like a bubble tip.

It just takes a little more time to search for the propagated stuff, but it is worth it.

Good Luck!

Best, Peter
 

Mihai

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My advice is not to buy anything until you read at least 2-3 books. I know it's hard, but IMO essential.

I recommend: Bob Fenner's Conscientious Marine Aquarist
Eric Borneman's Aquarium Corals
and, perhaps
Reef Invertebrates by Calfo and Fenner

That's my advice - take it or leave it.
M.
 
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WOW..You guys covered it...But just to kick a dog when its down...Reading is essential part of this hobby..along with Patience and planning...Starting these good practices now will save you grief in the long run (for the most part)..Aquaculture is the way to go if at all possible...Guy and unleashed pretty much hit the nail on the head...Ask questions and many as possible, there are no stupid questions...

Good luck
 

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