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Guy":21q6tvka said:
1) locals who have actually seen my tank notice the corraline.
2) I stated the increase in calcium resulted in slow corraline growth. Not the increase in calcium slowed the corraline growth. You obviously misunderstood or mistated.
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What I think is a real shame is Matt has an awesome tank.
But instead of attempting to figure out the how's and why's he is successful, we wind up debating and flaming my tank.
awesome tank Matt keep us posted.
But instead of attempting to figure out the how's and why's he is successful, we wind up debating and flaming my tank.
awesome tank Matt keep us posted.
CA isnt the only limiting factor in coraline growth. You also need proper alk, mag, and P04 levels. If the coraline is asborsing minute amount of organics which is very unlikely, it isnt harvested so it wouldnt lead to any nutrient export.
I agree with Len that we need some growth sequence pics fom you bob. How about pics of corals you had two years ago and then again today. Your SPS for instance?
Sorry Matt but you had to know Bob would jump all over this thread to make it look like you were trying "his" methods. Nice tank!
I agree with Len that we need some growth sequence pics fom you bob. How about pics of corals you had two years ago and then again today. Your SPS for instance?
Sorry Matt but you had to know Bob would jump all over this thread to make it look like you were trying "his" methods. Nice tank!
beaslbob":o9auhghn said:
As I have said before, I believe that is because of how you state your opinions, not your opinions themselves (you also wrote about fish and corals surviving for two years in your tank, but you fail to mention the not insignificant deaths that have occurred in your tank).
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PS Purple digitata should grow at astounding rates. I have brought so much to local swaps that people call it 'Leftytata'.
Matt,
Sorry I started this fiasco. Just wondering how your tap water was because mine is horrible as well and was trying to learn how you can have a nice tank without having RO/DI/DI that doesn't work for me.
Rob
P.S - Bob, I am not flaming your tank, I am comparing your statements to my experiences adn they are way off.
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Sorry I started this fiasco. Just wondering how your tap water was because mine is horrible as well and was trying to learn how you can have a nice tank without having RO/DI/DI that doesn't work for me.
Rob
P.S - Bob, I am not flaming your tank, I am comparing your statements to my experiences adn they are way off.
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sediener":2i1fb6zv said:
though I was being clear. Add calcium result is slow corraline growth.
Completely different from saying add calcium and the result is to slow down the corraline growth.
Corraline is growing slowly but faster than before adding the calcium.
Guy":rp0oqsw3 said:
It might help if i could spell.
example: have always had say a 2" diameter patch of dark purple corraline on a rock. It just stayed there for say a year. Nothing much else happening.
so calcium went up to 400ppm and now that patch after say 6 months is 3" in diameter. that slow growth I attribute to getting the calcium up.
secondly consider a patch of corraline that is doubling each month. And then you get the calcium up. And After that increase it takes 6 months for the corraline to double. That would be an example of slowing the growth with increased calcium.
The first is a slow corraline growth from increased calcium. The second is a slowing the corraline growth because of the increase in calcium. Actually two completely different statements.
Now pass me the java also.
And the spell checker.
Hey, debate away guys. It's not even really my tank. Someone else has been taking care of it for the last 5 years or so. I've just been maintaining it for the last 6 months. So it's hardly my involvement that has gotten it to where it is.
I just thought it was interesting how it goes against many dogmatic principles of how we think a reef tank should be set up. I still consider it an exception to the rule though.
Bob,
Do keep in mind that this tank really is very different from the method I have heard you suggest. There is no encouragement of harvestable plant life, there is heavy skimming, topoff with RO/DI water, Ca/Alk supplementation through dosing, and aggressive water changes. The only similarities that I can see to what you have are tap water and relatively low lighting compared to what most reef tanks have.
I just thought it was interesting how it goes against many dogmatic principles of how we think a reef tank should be set up. I still consider it an exception to the rule though.
Bob,
Do keep in mind that this tank really is very different from the method I have heard you suggest. There is no encouragement of harvestable plant life, there is heavy skimming, topoff with RO/DI water, Ca/Alk supplementation through dosing, and aggressive water changes. The only similarities that I can see to what you have are tap water and relatively low lighting compared to what most reef tanks have.
Has nothing to do with S T A B I L I T Y, Does it?
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Yep there are significant differences. I was attempting to limit my comments to just those things that were similiar. The tap water and lower lighting. My analysis is affected by my experience but in no way was I attempting to push anything on anyone. We also have a local here who uses NO lighting on sps's. But he probably uses ro/di and does have macros in the display.
I think this tank is an example of what can be done with tap water. And is only an exception because most don't.
Rob:
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by stability from my comments above. If you have concerns perhaps another thread would be appropriate.
Yep there are significant differences. I was attempting to limit my comments to just those things that were similiar. The tap water and lower lighting. My analysis is affected by my experience but in no way was I attempting to push anything on anyone. We also have a local here who uses NO lighting on sps's. But he probably uses ro/di and does have macros in the display.
I think this tank is an example of what can be done with tap water. And is only an exception because most don't.
Rob:
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by stability from my comments above. If you have concerns perhaps another thread would be appropriate.
beaslbob":9rpzagla said:
IMO this is why you're confused about what goes on in our reef tanks and give bad advice as a result. You often take the discussion and concepts out of context and then try reapplying them to another situation while ignoring other variables.
beaslbob":9rpzagla said:
Sure. And someone in the next town over on a different water supply could get VERY different results. See comment above.
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