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shalegac

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You can alway make a FW look like a marine enviroment. Find some neat looking brakish fish like puffers and you can use some realy well rinsed sand for the bottom and some lace rock. I had a tank like that for a long time till a old friend of mine bought it off me when I started on my Nano reef. You can also get NO florecent lighting with a 50/50 colored bulb. The normal population can't tell the diff.
 
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Planted tanks are a lot more of a hassle to maintain than a reef, IMO. At least that was my experience; but I've been reefing for decades and am much less experienced with the planted tank thing.
 
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DanConnor":qv2i0slw said:
Planted tanks are a lot more of a hassle to maintain than a reef, IMO. At least that was my experience; but I've been reefing for decades and am much less experienced with the planted tank thing.
Hm. That sucks to hear. Part of what I wanted to avoid was plumbing a sump, farting with big skimmer, calc reactor, etc. Should be easier to set up a planted, shouldn't it?
 
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For sure. I was trying for a fertilized, co2 enhanced, high light setup because thats how the most awesome tanks are run. It worked for a while, but eventually I ran into algae problems I couldn't shake.
 
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I was hoping there would be a way for me to harvest the co2 produced by my brewing yeast, but that is going to take a lot of research. Not sure about the high lights yet. I do have halides, but was rather hoping to go to a PC or VHO type setup.
 
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I've used CO2 from yeast in the past. Its kinda fun, works ok for a small tank.

CO2 from a tank is so much easier. You can get a regulator from a beer store for $65 and build an in-line reactor (to canister filter) out of pvc.

There are also other rigs that use some stuff that generates co2; never tried them.
 

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You'll want a CO2 system with a tank. Yeast is just too unstable and the resulting pH fluxuations are a pain in the neck. It's one of those hardware choices that are worth it.

The only downside to planted tanks is the pruning. Mine needs a haircut every other week. On the other hand, I don't use RO water and the plants clean the water almost as well as a bunch of live rock and a skimmer.
 
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I would not even bother doing a planted tank w/o CO2 personally, it sooo enhances plant growth! The 2l bottle with yeast and sugar is very cheap and easy, but I found it does need fiddling with often, as in almost daily.

(*I think planted tanks are just as much hassle as a reef as well*)
 
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HD - I'll post pics of my planted tank soon. I did mostly asian fish , I have:

1 Microptenapoma
2 Croaking gouramis
1 yoyo Loach
1 Siamese algae eater (these fish rock, will even eat beard algae!)
5 Threadfin rainbows (Gorgeous fish but sort of high maintenance for a rainbow)
4 Otocinculus cats (south american but they are hardy and functional)

Had some pygmy cories in there too but they dissapeared after move from 30 gallon cube to 60 gallon. I am runnin a eheim 2213 and a bottle Co2 with diffuser. Tank is lit by 4 t5s , 2 6500k and 2 10k.

The plants I sort of started over since previous tank I had a echinodorus uruguayensis that grew over everything else. This tank is some pygmy chain sword, alternatheria reineckii , red tiger lotus and bronze crypts so far. I have to say the planted tank can be a lot of work if you want to prune and make it immaculate but I usually just remove the leaf litter, mulm etc when doing water changes and occasionally trim a few things here and there and it takes me maybe 30 mins a week max.

Its a lot of fun and a nice change of pace from reefkeeping - you can go with lower maintenance plants and don't have to have fancy lights etc to get some really nice looking plants but it helps.
 
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I can see my interest being perked already. I needed a shot in the arm, and I think maybe this is the way to go for me. Thanks for the info, everyone, and I would love to see your pictures.
 
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Guy":uv3qhbfs said:
wgscott":uv3qhbfs said:
Are they hermaphrodites?

Nope. Start a new post and I'll be happy to share all I have learned over the years.

This post would go in a totally different direction in the sump. :lol:
 

fungia

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i was going to quit reefkeeping a couple of years ago because i had a crash when i came back from vacation. it was very frustrating of course and when i took down the 50 gallon i thought i would not get back in the game. i have a few freshwater tanks, one planted one african cichlid and one discus. but after a while i missed reef-keeping. i got a great deal on a 100 gallon and i am sure glad i got back to this hobby again. i think everyone gets frustrated but when things go right it is more rewarding then any other hobby ive tried.
 
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DanConnor":2l98fi24 said:
You could always try something like these:

http://www.georgecramer.com/dutchvivariums.html

Wow, some neat tanks (or whatever they call 'em) over there.
bakhansmeulbloka.jpeg
 

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