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Mike612

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I was recently at Big Al’s in Montreal and I saw one of the saddest things I have ever seen in a pet store. The store had just received a saltwater order and their acclimation procedure is disgusting. I asked one of the employees what the acclimation procedure consisted of and this is what I was told:
"We use carbonated water to lower the PH in some of the aquariums on one of the systems to about 6.5. We then float the fish as we unpack them to adjust to the temperature of the tanks and then we cut the bags and put them right into the low ph saltwater. Once the fish are all unpacked, we turn the system water flowing into the tank back on, but at a very reduced rate. Within two hours, the acclimation is finished and the carbonic acid created when carbonated water was added is dissipated. Then, the next morning, we come in and move the fish out of the three tanks they were put in and into all the other tanks in the system."
I would like your opinions on this because I see many things wrong with this. There were at least 50-60 fish in a tank that was only 100 gallons in size. To make it worse, there were a lot of fish that should not be kept together! I asked the employee if the salinity was adjusted to that of the fish in the bags and he informed me it was not. That tells me that they are only considering PH and temperature when they acclimate. They just take the fish out of whatever salinity and put it into their system's salinity. I’m sure that this causes horrible stress. Also, the types of fish they had in there under this method of acclimation was also disgusting. They had sensitive and fish that are hard to care for like regal angels (they had four) and yellow long nose butterflies (they had about 5). These fish were all in the same tank along with about 10 coral beauties, about 10 blue hippo tangs and numerous others. I think any of us going to Big Al’s in Montreal should boycott the saltwater section and complain to the owner that we refuse to buy fish from him until he changes his acclimation procedures!
 

trido

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If I ever get to Montreal I will try to help your cause. You may want to keep in mind, Big Al is in the business of making money. If the LFS has been around a while they are probably not losing a large percentage of fish using these methods. The practices there may not be the same as other LFS you frequent or humane by your standards (is keeping a bunch of fish in a glass box humane at all?) but Im sure they have an idea of what they are doing. You might be disgusted and suprised alot more often if you really knew what went on behind the scenes of the industry.
 
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I am not a chemist, and this is dredged from the deep recesses of my mind but here it goes anyway:


When fish ship in bags, ammonia accumulates and the pH becomes acidic.
This lowering of pH actually protects the fish by doing something magical to the ammonia.

In this case, drip acclimating the fish in the water they were shipped in is BAD! As you add new salt water and expose to air, the pH corrects and the fish are exposed to toxic levels of ammonia. Worse than not acclimating at all.

I think that Big Al is in the right. Temp and pH great.

As far as having non "compatible" fish all in one tank. I think that this is OK too as the fish usually are not compatible because they compete for territory and food. For 3 days, with no where to hide, they will leave each other alone.


Big Al is in the business of making money - why would he risk losing expensive fish?
 

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I'm with brown.

I've heard that if you drip acclimate the toxic lvls in the shipping water actually rises.

I've even seen an ebay coral seller who WILL NOT warrenty your purchase if you drip acclimate. His idea was to get the coral into good water asap (hopefully your tank has good water haha).

As far as the number of fish goes.... thats just the industry. Hopefully they will move the fish before the "crowding" becomes an issue.. besides.. if you had a shipment of 200 tangs come in it would cost a fortune to have enough tankage to support them long term.

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