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lviathan

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So…. I’ve been out of the hobby for a couple of years. I broke down my last tank while moving into our new house with the intent of reviving the tank once we had done a substantial home remodel. Five years later we’re just finishing the remodel. Now I am getting the system back up and running. I am incorporating some of the new technology and thinking that has become prevalent since I was last doing this. While pretty well along, I would like to get some opinions from the board. For the sake of entertainment, I will do this in the form of a quiz.

First of all a little basic information about setup: The display tank is 65 gallons (36x18x24) with a single center overflow. The drain is a 1.5” bulkhead and there are two .5” returns through the overflow ending in LocLine. I have a substantial sump (36x15x16) that is roughly 35% refugium, 15% baffled return box and 50% open sump. I feed a Barr Aquatics 1220 skimmer from the sump back to the return box. A calcium reactor and chiller operate on a closed loop through the sump. I am using auto topoff and a Solar 1000 LWM controller because I was (and probably still am) a gadget freak. In terms of lighting, I have a single 250w metal halide and 2x 96w VHOs. All of my equipment will be remote- we are building an “aquarium” room directly behind the tank with water, drain, ventilation, dedicated power, etc. I expect that I will continue to be mostly an SPS guy.

The quiz: I need pumps to drive a couple of distinct activities in the tank. First, the skimmer is great but requires a lot of water flow. Second, I am planning on installing a closed loop on the tank and would like to get ~20 turns/hour out of it. Third, I would like a vigorous return to the tank from the sump (probably top out around 350gph given the overflow constraints and control of microbubbles). The loops to the chiller and Ca reactor should be driven as part of one of the three but I can manage that fairly easily. All pumps will be remote (in the adjacent room) so there will be a little more head pressure than one would normally expect on the return and closed loop. I currently own two pumps, a Little Giant 4MDQX-SC and a Reeflo Dart. I expect that I will need to purchase a third pump and run the three activities I described independently (even if I did not have to, I like the idea of redundancy).

Question 1a) What should the third pump be?

Question 1b) What pump should be matched to what activity (ies)?
e.g. Return – Little Giant
Skimmer – New pump
Closed loop – Dart

Question 2) I also happen to have an Icecap 660 ballast lying around. I have room in my canopy to install some PCs. Should I? If so, wattage/color combination suggestions?

Thanks much in advance for your input, let me know if I can supply you further information. Other thoughts/suggestions welcome.
 

Len

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That is a whole lot of flow in a 65 gallon :) Barr recommends a Little Giant 4MDSC, Sequece 3600, or Iwaki 55 for your skimmer. I would feed the chiller with this pump before it goes to the skimmer; cooled water skims better :) Your current pumps won't drive it because they are not pressure rated.

I'd also use the Dart for the closed loop and use the LG for the return. Personally, I don't like super high flow through the sump (higher risk of severe failures, more noise, etc.) and would get a smaller pump, but if you like high flow, use the LG since you have it already.

Your ca reactor should have its own pump since it's a closed loop design. It only needs a tiny feed pump, and I would get a Aqualifter for this purpose.

If you have a 660 around, I'd definitely get some PCs or VHO actinics in there if your electric bill isn't a concern ;) I like using lots of actinics with whitish halides when space permits. You also could run half actinic and half daylight and have it come on after the existing actinics come on but before the halides come on. This would give a more gradual sunrise/sunset effect.
 

lviathan

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Thanks, great info... I was unaware that cooler water skims better. The chiller is relatively small (1/6HP) w/ 3/4" I/O- will be interested to see how much flow I can run through there and still get to the skimmer- will do some fluid mechanics math on that.

>>Your ca reactor should have its own pump since it's a closed loop design.
Yes.. I have fed it with a piece of RO tubing split from the return in the past. Expect to do so again in the future, probably don't need to add another pump just for this.


>>if your electric bill isn't a concern
not until it arrives :D

Thanks again
 
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I have a 58, and don't really like my closed loop. Put in a vortec with a battery back up, (gadget freak you are...) and don't worry about it.

Depending on what chiller you have, I'd put it on the return line. When I had mine on it's own loop from and returning to the sump, the pump kicked on a lot more than it does now.

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