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I got an email from an LA wholesaler on Monday. One of their LFS customers in my area, Bao Le of Aquatic Gallery in Milpitas, was transhipped a zebra octo by accident. Bao had called to wholesaler because he didn't know anything about taking care of the octo, and the wholesaler knew that I was local to the store and put us in contact.

After discussing the needs of the animal for a few minutes on the phone, Bao decided it wasn't worth the risk to the animal to hold it in his store even for a week just to take pics and told me I should come pick it up because I had space in my ceph system. Faced with the idea of this animal on display in and LFS and therefore generating interest in keeping them, I decided to drive the hour to pick it up.

As I talked with Bao, he told me that he had contacted the wholesaler/collector and told them if they were going to continue to collect these animals, he would take his business elsewhere. He also told me that he felt the same way and didn't support the collection or sale of rays and seahorses. I actually called the store before I talked to Bao to ask about the zebra octopus and how much it was, and flatly they told me it wasn't for sale which tells me he was serious about this from the get go.

Bao also refused to take any money for the octo, even when I told him I would be happy to pay, and that I would be totally comfortable paying the landed cost. He was just interested in getting the best home for the animal as quickly as possible.

So, even though I didn't want another one, I now have a very adult, female wunderpus in Fontenelles old digs. She has already eaten and taken up residence behind the hang on tank overflow...seems oddly familiar.

It seems that in the anything for a buck marine ornamental industry there are indeed a few people who are trying to do the right thing. Gold stars all around in my book, so if you are in the Bay Area, please check out and support http://www.aquatic-gallery.com .


If you are interested in octopus, please do your research first, both on 'appropriate' species and on their specific needs. Check out http://www.wunderpus.net for wunderpus info, http://www.stickycricket.com/cuttle/considerations for things to think about before buying a ceph, or http://www.tonmo.com for general ceph info.

And, because this posting is about wunderpus, the quick wunderpus FAQ:
The size of Wunderpus photogenicus populations in the wild is unknown, and it is unclear what effect their collection will have on those populations. Little is known about what they need to survive in the wild, and even less is known about what they need to live well in the aquarium. After much wrestling with this issue, I urge even experienced ceph-keepers to think long and hard before bringing one into the home aquarium. Many cephalopod enthusiasts feel that the wunderpus shouldn’t even be collected for the trade at least until more scientific research has been done on the species. I agree with this sentiment, and it is my hope that those who are interested in these animals do not rush out to buy them and do everything they can to ensure that their wild populations are protected.
 
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You know, I tried years ago to join tonmo and was never able to. Emailed the site admins, never got a response. Is it an active forum, or what?

Good on Bao for taking the action and putting his money where his mouth is. :D
 

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Fortunately for this wunderpus it has been lucky enough to end up in a captive environment that is most suited to Cephs. Too bad for me that Christmas was three weeks ago.

Kudos to Bao for " Drawing a line in the sand", so to speak.
 
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trido":2ya0y3l8 said:
Fortunately for this wunderpus it has been lucky enough to end up in a captive environment that is most suited to Cephs. Too bad for me that Christmas was three weeks ago.

I thought of you when I got it in the system! I really didn't want another one, but I guess you better come down to see it and get some frags! :D
 
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seamaiden":rzd5l31d said:
You know, I tried years ago to join tonmo and was never able to. Emailed the site admins, never got a response. Is it an active forum, or what?

Try again! Let me know if you cant. Good place for all things cephy.
 
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Bao is the guy I did that mandarin illustration for - good guy.
 
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I pronounce you the world's leading authority on this species.
 
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JimM":1sjcyuzl said:
Bao is the guy I did that mandarin illustration for - good guy.

I think I remember that piece.

Rich, I'll try tonmo again. I had wanted to join because WWM was getting a few queries specific to cephs and I was hoping the two sites could tie together to reach a wider audience (even if it meant that more often than not we said, "Don't buy them"), sort of cross-pollinate each other and all.
 
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Rich, are you a member at tonmo? If so, I'll use you as a referral, but would need your nick... I think.
 
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Jim, there is a pic at the shop with Bao in Tonga wearing your shirt.

Chris... awww, shucks!

Marina...its Thales. :D
 
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Thales":27pc6tn9 said:
I actually called the store before I talked to Bao to ask about the zebra octopus and how much it was, and flatly they told me it wasn't for sale which tells me he was serious about this from the get go.

It's always nice to hear of a retailer doing the right thing by our aquatic friends. I wish the lfs around here were so good. Maybe this should be posted in a slightly lower forum, so that some of the industry folks can see that they aren't the only ones who care.
 

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