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SuRFeR BoY

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like the title says, how many people here run nitrate absorbing products? i run carbon, nitrate, and phosphate media but in my sps dom. reef. just curious to see if others do the same.
 

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Chemical filters.

Carbon and Rowaphos on my setup, but no nitrate reducer. The carbon makes a noticeable difference in water clarity; not so sure about the Rowaphos. I once tried to double the amount of Rowaphos I used, and suspect it may have played a role in causing my anemone to lighten in color significantly. Fortunately when I removed the Rowaphos the anemone recovered quickly. Now I run the Rowa output through the carbon to cut down on any chances.

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your bio cycle in the tank should take care of all the nitrates. if your tank load is producing more nitrate than your system can handle, then you'll need a nitrate binder.

i have 3 small fish in my 58. i bet my clams process as much nitrate as they produce!

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sounds good.. i am about due to buy more media and only used nitrate media because i had it laying around...so i am going to take that off the check list.. i only have e few fish in my setup so i am sure i more then ok, even my posphates are pretty low but i will never go without running media.. thanks everyone
 

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I run carbon in 2 phosban reactors. I use to run coralife phosphate remover(in my opinion the best phosphate media) but now have no real need, I only have a 4in powder brown, 4in. chevron, 2 4in. dussimer tangs, midas blenny, 7in rock lobster,2 in. scissortail goby, 4 1.5in pj cardinals, 2in blue line grouper.... In the sump/refugium 5in. red lobster, 7.5in panther grouper for nitrate production to feed my denitrifier in a 280gal system....Natureef denitrfying reactor...with phosphate option... I have been running salt water systems for a little over 10 yrs..I also try to keep it a simple as possible...Now that I'm trying my hand at a reef system I would like to go a little longer than 6 months without a water change...
Oh yeah seaweed in the sump/refugium..
 
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Seachem De*Nitrate in a fluidized filter at a steady fast drip.

Warren, why is it everything I do in this hobby, you've already done, lol.

I'm getting my de*nitrate in tomorrow, approximately what gph is a steady fast drip? They say no more than 50gph in the seachem forum but I was planning on doing something like 30gph so my tank gets turned over 2X an hour. I figured I'd do the de*nitrate instead of a remote dsb, do you really think its as effective as seachem says?

I'm getting the 34oz / 1 liter jar, not sure if it will all fit in on phosban reactor but thats what I was going to try to do.
 

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Seachem De*Nitrate in a fluidized filter at a steady fast drip.

Really curious to see how this works and how can you tell that it's working without a 0 nitrate reading before it's flushed back into the system..Mine takes a minimum of 4 hours to cycle nitrate down to 0...And that's with methanol as a booster to the nitrate eating bacteria....
Thanks Tobin
 

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Really curious to see how this works and how can you tell that it's working without a 0 nitrate reading before it's flushed back into the system..Mine takes a minimum of 4 hours to cycle nitrate down to 0...And that's with methanol as a booster to the nitrate eating bacteria....
Thanks Tobin


De*Nitrate isn't a denitrator. Its supposed to be a synthetic combination of a dsb and live rock. It's little pebbles but they're supposed to be much much much more porous than live rock. So if you pass a slow steady flow thru them the outer parts have bacteria to take up the oxygen and the bacteria in the inner parts are then not exposed to the oxygen. It would be my replacement for a remote dsb.

But here's a thread where mavgi did make a sulfur denitrator out of a phosban reactor.
 
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How my natureef denitrier works..

Okay here goes... Water is flushe dinto the denitrifying chamber(17gal) it is then dosed with nitragone..I'm currently at 12 ml or 12 min...It is then dosed with phosphagone... I'm currently at 7 min or ml...It sit's there for 4 hrs to basicly go stagnent to make sure only anerobic bacteria exist(the ones that exist deep in your live rock).. During this 4 hours this bacteria is boosted up by the menthol(nitragone) which eats up all the nitrates in the water...After this process is finished 4 hours later...There are 2 maxi jets... 1 500 which contantly runs inside the 17gal chamber to keep the bacteria moving around and eating all the nitrates..1 400 that only turns on when the dosing pump tells it to, to flush and put new water to be denitrified in the chamber..This pump is on the outside of the chamber in the sump to pump water in which in turn forces the water over the line in the chamber that allows it to flush into the tank...
 

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Bob 1000

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How my natureef denitrier works..

Here's some more pics in action the brown stuff you see in the chamber are anerobic bacteria on steroids...Colonies of good bacteria...I often vacuum some out and disgard it, but anyone wishing to add more good bacteria to their system is more than welcome to stop by and pick it up to dump in their system..Not to mention puting this into a new tank every four hours will in my opinion speed up cycling or stop it....Tested with a new 20 and fish are still alive 2 firefish at that...
 

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Bob 1000

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De*Nitrate isn't a denitrator. Its supposed to be a synthetic combination of a dsb and live rock. It's little pebbles but they're supposed to be much much much more porous than live rock. So if you pass a slow steady flow thru them the outer parts have bacteria to take up the oxygen and the bacteria in the inner parts are then not exposed to the oxygen. It would be my replacement for a remote dsb.

But here's a thread where mavgi did make a sulfur denitrator out of a phosban reactor.

Thanks for the link...But by using methanol the Biproduct is alk so this helps keep alk good also but not enough to notice..I'm not sure what the end process of sulphur is...
 

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