Do these mean the same in the aquaculture business? I know in my other hobby - herpetology - they dont. Captive bred are offspring of captive parents while tank ( or farm ) raised are usually eggs or young collected in the wild but raised in captivity on farms and then sold. Less of an ecological impact than regular wild harvesting but still not as good as captive bred. I rarely see fish advertised as captive bred but usually as tank raised and I was wondering if the two are used interchangeably in this hobby.
Tank Raised vs. Captive Bred
- Thread starter jejton
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- Flushing, NY
I always thought it was the same, but i can see how Tank Raised can be different.
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- Flushing, NY
is there a minimum amount of time before its considered "Tank Raised"? Otherwise, someone might say its tanked raised (if only a week)
i agree with ming. thats a good question. below is liveaquaria's emailed response:
Dear Charles,
Thank you for your inquiry. Tank raised live stock are captured as juveniles and raised in captivity, while tank bred fish are born and bred in captivity. If we can be of any additional assistance, please feel free to contact our Technical Support Department at 1-800-334-3699 or via email at [email protected] and we will be happy to answer any question(s) you may have.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Drs. Foster & Smith
cmc
Dear Charles,
Thank you for your inquiry. Tank raised live stock are captured as juveniles and raised in captivity, while tank bred fish are born and bred in captivity. If we can be of any additional assistance, please feel free to contact our Technical Support Department at 1-800-334-3699 or via email at [email protected] and we will be happy to answer any question(s) you may have.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Drs. Foster & Smith
cmc
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- Philippines
:scratch: ...marKeting linggo. good question
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- Flushing, NY
How young is a juvenile? and how long does it have to be raised in captivity before its "Tank Raised"? What if I capture a juvenile and keep it for a week, is it now considered tank raised?
My point exactly, Ming! To avoid these questions, only 2 classes should be used in the all levels of the hobby:
Wild-caught and everything else :splitspin
Everything else would include tank-raised, tank-bred, captive-bred, captive-raised, aquacultured, home-brewed, etc...
Wild-caught and everything else :splitspin
Everything else would include tank-raised, tank-bred, captive-bred, captive-raised, aquacultured, home-brewed, etc...
Deano - I disagree. I think it should be Captive Bred and everything else. Tank raised is just wild caught a while ago. Kind of like a longer term quarantine. Captive bred is qualitatively different since the animal was never wild to begin with. I think it is important both for those interested in the health and condition of the animal to be purchased as well as those who try to have a minimal impact on the reefs while still partaking of the hobby.
But wow - i thought it was a simple answer and here we are 11 posts later.
But wow - i thought it was a simple answer and here we are 11 posts later.
You're missing my point, tank-raised SHOULD mean being born in a tank. It currently does not, hence all the confusion. A baby fish born in the wild and raised in a tank, 100% healthy, eating flakes from its owner's hand is still wild-caught.
Also, they are healthy fish that are wild caught and sick aquacultured fish.
My methodology clearly defines the origin of a fish, to those interested in reducing the impact our hobby has on the reefs.
Also, they are healthy fish that are wild caught and sick aquacultured fish.
My methodology clearly defines the origin of a fish, to those interested in reducing the impact our hobby has on the reefs.
Raised does not mean born.
I was raised in NC, but i was not born there.
hence the difference in terms
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- Tenafly, NJ
Tank Raised are often collected as plankton and grown out, so they are not technically "juveniles". It is often right after settlement and they are grown to a fully developed fish. There are sites in Tahiti, Reunion, Florida, etc. that all do this with excellent results with fish that are not possible to breed (puffers, wrasse, angelfish, etc.)
Aha....more knowledge! Thanks, Joe :hug:
Would you consider this method to be "ravaging the reefs"?
IMO Captive bred wild caught and tank raised all have places in the descriptions of livestock in the hobby but it is up to us, the people who make the hobby what it is to tell the retailers what the definitions of them are, not them dictating to us what each means.
- Location
- Tenafly, NJ
No, definitely not due to the equipment they use. Basically it is a vacuum with a kreisel inside or a plankton net. They are not going into the actual reef to collect, just under the surface at night using lights on the apparatus. The fish are grown out there in either raceways or ponds then shipped off to Europe. The US hasn't caught onto this concept yet (nor embraced it) due to the catch not being very selective. I think it is great and hope to see more in the future. I know Reunion is just setting up - so hopefully it will be successful.
Here's the place in Tahiti (translated from French) http://translate.google.com/transla...-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=orD&sa=G
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- Flushing, NY
My Wild Caught Banggai's (which may or may not be considered tank raised) will give birth to Tank Bred and Tank Raised baby banggai's. :splitspin
Joe,
I got some banggai's already and think I formed 2 pairs. One of the pairs are already holding eggs
Joe,
I got some banggai's already and think I formed 2 pairs. One of the pairs are already holding eggs
- Location
- Tenafly, NJ
Great to hear Ming!
Hopefully he can fast for 30 days without eating the eggs
Do you have a Diadema/BTA for the young to host in?
Hopefully he can fast for 30 days without eating the eggs
Do you have a Diadema/BTA for the young to host in?
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