Hippo in a nano
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Yes they need a lot more room than a nano tank can provide. People get small Hippo tangs, which are usually available as small as a nickel, and put them in small nano tanks, which they will out grow very fast.
DontXtripNfall
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If you're going to think about it this way then technically almost everything we as hobbyists keep in our tanks should not be in our tanks.
I see a tang police thread underway...
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oh boy another 1 of these threads :lol2:
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This is not true as there are plenty of fish that don't cover a lot of territory in the wild, or get large, and do very well in our tanks.If you're going to think about it this way then technically almost everything we as hobbyists keep in our tanks should not be in our tanks.
I see a tang police thread underway...
DontXtripNfall
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Uhh... must I have to start this?
The majority of fish sold at LFS' would do better left in the ocean space-wise. I didn't say that there was no fish that wouldn't stay in a section of the reef and live there forever.
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You said "almost everything".
Clowns, Damsel, Gobbies, Blennies and a bunch of other fish stay in one area and in our tanks will do quite well. So quite a bit of fish that are sold at LFS will do just as well in our tanks as the ocean, if the tank is maintained of course.
Nothing is going to be as large as the ocean but a reasonable amount of space can be provided which will do just fine for a lot of fish available at LFS.
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Wake up Phil :smash:
DontXtripNfall
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Sharks, Rays, Anthias, Tangs, Wrasses, and a bunch of of other fish will swim great amounts in the ocean but they are sold at LFS' too.
Just for the record, you said hippos come as small as a nickel... well mine is the size of a penny.
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And quite a bunch of others, which I mention some of them before, don't and are also sold at LFS.
WOW big difference. They even show up as small as a dime too but who counting.
Personally I think it is common because those that do keep fish in such a small tank have numerous reasons in mind for doing so:
1.) They are going to move the fish when it grows out.
2.) Really like them and are hoping that the fish won't grow so much(speaking of the Tang here, not specifically the clownfish--as I feel a clownfish is appropriate in certain sized nanos)
3.) They don't have the knowledge needed to make an educated decision on what additions to add to the tank.
4.) They really don't care about what they may know and simply want what they want.
There is a laundry list of why things are as they are when it comes to the things others keep. Ultimately it is up to the individual to make a decision that they themselves can live with. Right or wrong... everyone else will have an opinion.
We kept a 170g fish only for 8years and the one fish I remember most was our Grouper. I purchased him when he was about an inch. When we found a more suitable home for him 2+ years later he didn't fit in the largest net they sell commonly at the LFS and was sticking out from end to end when we removed him. Yes I knew that they get big. Though honestly I don't see many aquariums in people's homes being able to compensate for such a large specimen. It got me thinking and still does.
Commonly we all have or will keep species we want simply because we want them. Sometimes things work out for the best, other times not at all. Though it is a type of double edged sword and sacrafice at what expense?
For myself I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this hobby just yet because species should "remain in the ocean" though I do find myself making wiser choices. Still probably not the best in everyone's opinion though I think we're doing okay.
Everyone you speak to will offer a different perspective and do things a bit differently. Though I don't think that "common" is really a term other than when speaking of everyone commonly doing what they want with their own system because they are the ones that ultimately have to live with that decision.
1.) They are going to move the fish when it grows out.
2.) Really like them and are hoping that the fish won't grow so much(speaking of the Tang here, not specifically the clownfish--as I feel a clownfish is appropriate in certain sized nanos)
3.) They don't have the knowledge needed to make an educated decision on what additions to add to the tank.
4.) They really don't care about what they may know and simply want what they want.
There is a laundry list of why things are as they are when it comes to the things others keep. Ultimately it is up to the individual to make a decision that they themselves can live with. Right or wrong... everyone else will have an opinion.
We kept a 170g fish only for 8years and the one fish I remember most was our Grouper. I purchased him when he was about an inch. When we found a more suitable home for him 2+ years later he didn't fit in the largest net they sell commonly at the LFS and was sticking out from end to end when we removed him. Yes I knew that they get big. Though honestly I don't see many aquariums in people's homes being able to compensate for such a large specimen. It got me thinking and still does.
Commonly we all have or will keep species we want simply because we want them. Sometimes things work out for the best, other times not at all. Though it is a type of double edged sword and sacrafice at what expense?
For myself I'm not ready to throw in the towel on this hobby just yet because species should "remain in the ocean" though I do find myself making wiser choices. Still probably not the best in everyone's opinion though I think we're doing okay.
Everyone you speak to will offer a different perspective and do things a bit differently. Though I don't think that "common" is really a term other than when speaking of everyone commonly doing what they want with their own system because they are the ones that ultimately have to live with that decision.
OK, I of course had to assume the tang police would get called on this one. I agree with everyone it is a little silly that these nanos set up in LFS are complete with a clown, hippo tang, damsel and lots of times an anenome. I always just assumed it was false advertising and I am a little dissapointed. Especially because someone buying a complete nano set at a fish store may be doing so as their first aquarium, who may look at the tank and get sold.
Good advertising, bad salemanship. Of course I am not indicting every LFS around here. I know a lot of them are for the advancement of the hobby and I certainly cannot slight them on wanting to make a profit.
Good advertising, bad salemanship. Of course I am not indicting every LFS around here. I know a lot of them are for the advancement of the hobby and I certainly cannot slight them on wanting to make a profit.
Most LFS's are only housing the fish in a temporary tank anyway. They don't plan on having them there for years like we do and when they are small they can inhabit a small tank with little harm but when they go home with a customer to their permanent home they need the room to move. Remember too that before adding them to your tank they should be held in a QT for a little while too in order to observe them and to make sure they are healthy and in many times these tanks are quite small as well because they are temporary housing for the fish however when they get to the display tank it is important to give them the room they deserve because they will live there for years hapilly (hopefully).
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Yes, but just as you showed what fish can do fine in our tanks I mentioned fish that LFS' sell but space-wise need much more room then our tanks can provide. Your making this confusing.
"WOW" is what I thought we you said my post was not true. Don't call me out on a public forum for expressing my opinion on someone else's question. Perhaps "almost everything" wasn't perceived as a little sarcastic but it is true that a majority of LFS fish would thrive in the ocean rather than our tanks.
I have fish that will out grow my tank, I'm not trying to be a hypocrite but the question was "I'm pretty sure they need a lottttt more room. Am I wrong?" I simply answered it that if he is looking at it that way then he shouldn't be keeping any other form of tang or larger type fish sold at LFS.
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Interesting....I have finally, after many attempts, decided to give up on hippo tangs. No, not the ich....I haven't seen ich in my tank since its first year...over a decade ago. My hippos just don't grow....or if they do, they grow for another inch or less then stop. But they keep on eating...eating...and eating til they look like grotesque little footballs. Sometimes they waste away, even as they get fat....so I've decided that whatever conditions they may need, my tank (55 gal) is not providing them properly...so its time to give up on them. No problem with yellow tangs though......they don't grow much either, they slow down after reaching 3"...but that's fine with me as long as they look good. In fact, the only fish I've ever kept that actually grow are maroon clowns...and they grow fast.
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