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Dizbwayne

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i had my tank for a month i have 4 fishes in them
yellow tang
naso
blue throat
snowflake eel

they all have ich and its become real crazy right now. i have them separated from the tank now. how can i treat the tank the ich can the ich be in the rocks?

is it true ich multipy with light?
 

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The link Vic supplied above is great.

The snowflake doesn't have ich.

Light & ich have nothing to do with each other.
Ich will be present in a tank with no fish, for about a month.
Now that they are out of your main tank.....hypo will be best, as tangs don't handle copper well.
Garlic soaked food might help a little.

Check for the source of the problem:
a new fish addition, water quality, etc.

What size tank do you have & what are the size of your fishes?
Stressed promotes ich.
Sounds like you have alot of fish in there, being that the tank is only 1 month old.
I would go slower adding new fish.


Good luck.
 

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Before you start Hyposality you need to make sure that you have ich and not some thing else as Hyposality doesn't work against other things. Also if your going to do Hyposality you need to remove all you live rock and inverts as they're going to die for the low SG level. If possible move the fish out of the tank to a quartine tank and treat there.

If it's not ich or if the ich is really bad I would start with a copper treatment, tangs can handle it with no problem so I wouldn't worry. I've been using a copper called Copper Power and you can treat at hign levels with it and it's very safe, also get a copper kit so you can measure the copper.

Also while treating it best to leave a light on near the tank as when the lights go off the fish settle down and usally this is a time when they're not fighting the ich off. With the light on the fish will keep moving around and be much stronger to fight the ich off.

Ich is a parasite and even though stress can cause a fish to get ich it doesn't cause it. Stress just makes it hard for a fish to fight it off.

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Dizbwayne said:
i had my tank for a month i have 4 fishes in them
yellow tang
naso
blue throat
snowflake eel

they all have ich and its become real crazy right now. i have them separated from the tank now. how can i treat the tank the ich can the ich be in the rocks?

is it true ich multipy with light?

Couple of things:

1st, seems like an awfully new tank for all those fish.
2nd, Ich won't live without fish host. I think you'll need to keep the fish in a hospital tank for about 4 weeks, to rid your main tank of ich
 
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No need to rush into putting fish into to your tank ,you just started this tank ,think of it as a relationship ,,,the faster you push ,the fast you will loss it (crash)
Make sre you dont over load your bio-load ,Find out xactly how many fish you can put in ,if you dont have a big tank <Go for the smaller reef fish ,you can find all sorts of color and interesting paterns,,I have a 90 gal ,had as well blue tanp ,naso ,and one other ,,let me tell you ,blue hippo ,,Ich magnet,got rid of all my tang ,except 2 yellows ,now no more ich ,,I would keep 1 tang or 2 depending on the size of your tank.
plus you got great advice on this ,us ethem you will be fine ,And go slow .It took me about a year to get my tank just right ,with no prob,and adding the right amount of fish and sizes .
QT the fish ,and try a UV if your are not taking out your rock ,this way you kill free floating ich in the water
 

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Again, no-no on the fish load, more then the tank being able to handle it, I think its a matter of the hobbyist knowing how to handle it, as in knowing the higher your load the more work you will need to put in it (more WC/, detritus siphoning, becoming a wiz at testing params.)

But we are here now, so I would recommend you check all your params and find the stressor (water quality/ predatory eel?) correct it, as well as treating your fish. IMO ich is always present in tank, (stress a tang out, and youll see them come down real fast, even when there hasnt been in outbreak in years), boost the immune system of your fish(garlic in all foods, constant feeding, algae sheets) and that should help alot, if the ich is excessive on them then treat. Otherwise you will be stressing them, w/ constant removal and copper treating)

The main thing is keeping everything in check ALL the time, they should be able to handle it if they are happy/heathy. Its harder w/ a high bioload, especially one w/ alot of tangs (easy for all of them to get it), so decide whether to tone it down or step up your husbandry.

good luck:)

Andres
 
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marrone said:
Before everyone keeps jump on the guy over the amount of fish that he has in the tank you need to get his specs. Like what size tank, LR and was the tank cycled. You can easily have a tank stock and going within a month or even less if setup right.
If he does not ahve a 120 or better his ell doesnot belong in the tank along with a naso and yellow tank ,blue throat ,they grow fast and need space to swim plus its new tank ,those fish should not be in the tank for 1 month old ,he just finish cycling the tank ,he should go slow ,
 

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DEEPWATER said:
If he does not ahve a 120 or better his ell doesnot belong in the tank along with a naso and yellow tank ,blue throat ,they grow fast and need space to swim plus its new tank ,those fish should not be in the tank for 1 month old ,he just finish cycling the tank ,he should go slow ,


You don't need a 120 to have these fish, specially if they're small. There is plenty of space in a 75 gal tank for these fish. There are many ways of cycling a tank fast so you can have these fish not only within 1 month but within 1 day.
 
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marrone said:
You don't need a 120 to have these fish, specially if they're small. There is plenty of space in a 75 gal tank for these fish. There are many ways of cycling a tank fast so you can have these fish not only within 1 month but within 1 day.
they are small now ,,but his ell will grow it needs space to swim ,my ell grew to be 3ft in less then 6 months ,i got it at 6 inches long i and i have a 90 it was too small for the ell
 
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ohhh boy theres a debate here.... how about instead of arguing on why he shouldnt have these animals lets help him save those beautiful fishs lives. whatever the case maybe its already setup. already has inhibitants lets just work with what we got.....
 
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Tonyscoots84 said:
ohhh boy theres a debate here.... how about instead of arguing on why he shouldnt have these animals lets help him save those beautiful fishs lives. whatever the case maybe its already setup. already has inhibitants lets just work with what we got.....
NOt arguing at all ,,lol
 
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Tonyscoots84 said:
ohhh boy theres a debate here.... how about instead of arguing on why he shouldnt have these animals lets help him save those beautiful fishs lives. whatever the case maybe its already setup. already has inhibitants lets just work with what we got.....
We never argue with eachother on here ,,just our opinion :wink1:
 

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Tonyscoots84 said:
ohhh boy theres a debate here.... how about instead of arguing on why he shouldnt have these animals lets help him save those beautiful fishs lives. whatever the case maybe its already setup. already has inhibitants lets just work with what we got.....


I actually did in my first post and wanted people to stop jumping on the guy until he put in all his tank spec first and even then you have to help him and not bash him.

By the wasy a snow flake eel isn't go to grow from 6" to 3' in six month.
 

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I crush fresh garlic into a mush and mix it with frozen food. Don't go crazy with the garlic half a clove will do. My tangs even eat the garlic itself. Any leftover garlic after there done feeding remove it from the tank.
 

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