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SWITCH420

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depends on how much i would think.like a 10 pound rock in say a 90 gal.dont think any problems but a larger amount then i would think a cycle would start .imo
 

stedfast82

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do a water change and use the water in a tub with a power head and let it sit for 2week' every time you do a water change use the water from your reef and dump out some water out of the tub ad water from your reef in to the tub it wont hurt to do a small water chang on you reef every 3 day's change out the water in the tub!!
 

jrobbins

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skimmerman100 said:
is there any faster way to cure them? i want to speed cure them.

You have received some good advice in this thread. Just go slow and your tank will thank you.

If the rock has been dead for a year there is probably a ton of dead organics on/in it...


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pdnyc69

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No its not. Buy seperate tank with a heater, skimmer and power head. Keep in this tank for a min of 2 months with seeded live rock and/or live sand. Put 2 hardy fish in there just like when you cycled your tank. A spike in ammonia, nitrite, oir nitrate will shock,stress, and/or kill you corals.keep the lights off in that tank as to not cause an algae spike when you are curing
 

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the only thing 's in this hobby that happen fast are bad thing's speed cure???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!
 

jrobbins

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TNT125 said:
You can not cure dead rock, it is dead, there can not be a die off to cause a cycle ... rinse it off and through it in you tank it will come alive again.

This is just wrong. While the rock is not alive there is stuff in or on it that was alive. This stuff will start to decay in your tank unless you let it cure first.


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jrobbins

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Since there is clearly interest in speeding up this process I will let you in on a secret process to cure rocks.

First put the rocks in a bucket with a powerhead and heater. Then strip down to your underpants (tighty whities work best.). Next steal some of your girls makeup and paint a picture of your favorite coral on your forehead. Now here is the really important part...dance around the bucket in your facepaint and undies chanting "ookie ookie, gookey gookey, cure this rock I want a cookie!" then let out a bloodcurling shriek. Keep this up for at least two weeks then test the water in the bucket. If it reads zero ammonia and nitrites then this secret process was a success and you can add the rock to your tank. If not, change your undies and repeat for another week, or until you get the aforementioned readings.

Hope this helps ;)


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I think we are jumbling up a few issues here. If the rock is totally dead then there is nothing on it that will die and decay and cause a cycle to start. Shedding bound PO4 etc. is a different story. If the amount of dead rock is small compared to the total volume of the system there is really nothing to worry about IMO and I have done this many times.
 

yiliyang

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You should not add large volume of "dead" rock in at one time due to the dead stuff on there decaying in your water. Do not treat your rock with any chemicals, not even vinegar.

Normal LR curing procedure will not work in this case because you do not have any good bacteria on your rock at this time.
In my opinion the only viable option for you is to add a few pieces each week in you sump (where there is good flow). You will see a slight increase in ammonia and/or nitrate, once the reading become stable, add another few pieces. If your existing system is fairly mature, you will have all the rock cured in no time.
good luck with your rocks. One thing the others have mentioned is absolutely true: In the reefing hobby, only bad things come at you fast.
 

jrobbins

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prattreef said:
I think we are jumbling up a few issues here. If the rock is totally dead then there is nothing on it that will die and decay and cause a cycle to start. Shedding bound PO4 etc. is a different story. If the amount of dead rock is small compared to the total volume of the system there is really nothing to worry about IMO and I have done this many times.

Sorry I revealed your secret Randy...


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