soooooooo been out of the game for a little while but my brother wants to upgrade in a big way. he has a nice space 23"deep and 130" long on the first floor of his house. he is thinking 23" high. anyway i was thinking that 340g from glasscages is pretty close with starphire front. can anyone recomend another co to do the tank? also thinking of putting the sump in the basement a floor below, is this possible or is it not worth it? im going to be asking alot of q's as ive never gone this big before so im sorry to annoy
Dream build need help
- Thread starter clownlover
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- Location
- Dingmans ferry PA
make sure you either are putting it across floor beams or you will have to beef up the joists
i have shore aquariums and aquarium network working on the tank as well. so trying to get a rough list together of what i need:
sump- thinking 100g
protein skimmer- maybe etss downdraft, any other suggestions?
calcium reactor- thinkin korralin, any idea on brands?
live rock- thinking 350lbs
live sand- no idea, are deep sand beds still in fashion
heaters- 2 500 watt
return pump- no idea
tunze wavemaker
tunze streams for flow
controller- neptune or reefkeeper maybe?
lights- no idea
chiller
did i miss anything??
yea i def need the help beers n food on me.
sump- thinking 100g
protein skimmer- maybe etss downdraft, any other suggestions?
calcium reactor- thinkin korralin, any idea on brands?
live rock- thinking 350lbs
live sand- no idea, are deep sand beds still in fashion
heaters- 2 500 watt
return pump- no idea
tunze wavemaker
tunze streams for flow
controller- neptune or reefkeeper maybe?
lights- no idea
chiller
did i miss anything??
yea i def need the help beers n food on me.
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yea it is goin against a main wall and across, thanks
- Location
- 11507 Albertson, Long Island
if you can, i would definitely put the sump in the basement,
i have a 210 gallon, i didn't think it would make a big deal but i regret not putting the sump in the basement
under the tank is good but limited in space and tough to work under
good luck
i have a 210 gallon, i didn't think it would make a big deal but i regret not putting the sump in the basement
under the tank is good but limited in space and tough to work under
good luck
well the simensions changed bc apparntly if u go above 120 the price goes up alot so im look at 120 x 24 x 25 which brings it down to 311. anyway how would i check how much the floor could hold?
This tank will weigh about 2700lbs. thats like having a 15ppl in your living room. if you would throw a house party, you have nothing to worry about. Just put it perpendicular to the floor beams. you'll be fine. my dad has a buddy who has a glass shop. i can ask him if he makes tanks. Pm me later on tonight
+1...safety first..you need a structural engineer to check it out, you're taking close to 2 tons! Absolutely go with basement sump...much better option.
if you dont have a finished basement your best bet is to put another support beam in. the back of the tank will have the load bearing beam below it. out under the front of the tank it would be wise to put another beam with its own supports. depending on what kind of framing, and the span of the joists, you have it could hold the weight without the support, but the tank might sway every time someone walks by it. with a 10' tank you should be catching roughly 8 joists if they are 16" on center. that would put your joist load at 450-500lbs per. the only solid sure way is to put another support beam in, or you could add floor joists. as for a skimmer for a large tank i have to recommend etss downdraft. i have an etss 1k on my 300 and it f@%&*^$ rocks. good luck with the build, and dont be afraid to ask for help.
also beitals aquariums in pearl river ny 845 735 2300 www.beitalsaquariums.com builds tanks. they put a new back glass in my 300.
The tank/stand/water/live rock/sand/lights/etc/etc plus 3 or 4 people looking at the tank will weigh close to 4000 lbs. YOU MAY NOT BE FINE. Besides, those 15 people at your 'house party' are not sitting on those same beams/joists 24/7/365.
I have had engineers to my home twice...once for a 300g, and once for a 450g...both times, they recommended additional supports. (This is in a 'well-built' 20 yr. old house, WITH a large steel, center support.)
- Location
- Forked River, New Jersey
where in brooklyn are you? my father is a big contractor in brooklyn, he does tons of workin all the brown stones and the other styles.. those old floor joists are very weak and should be sisterd up and suported regardless of if it can hold up now.. if it sags and stress cracks in the future and yor tank tips and pours out.. thatll suck...but if you need help, im in brooklyn 3-4 days a week
- Location
- Forked River, New Jersey
i had a 120 on my upper floor in my house in jersey and i thought it would be ok too, but anytime someone walked past the tank i had my own wavemaker lol
A 10 foot long tank is HEAVY and HARD to move, hope you have lots of friends and suction cups.
You get what you pay for with Glasscages, hope you won't find the sloppy silicone, little chips here and there on the viewing panels, and rough edges bother you.
You get what you pay for with Glasscages, hope you won't find the sloppy silicone, little chips here and there on the viewing panels, and rough edges bother you.
well the home was built 3 years ago and the tank is up against a retaining wall and is perpendicular to the joists. the basement is finished or else i would put more support. i asked a very good contractor and he said it will be fine for 3500 - 4000 lbs. he said if it was in the middle of th eroom we would have a big problem
- Location
- Long Island, New York
+1 listen to Alfie. Now regarding Glasscages....I would never buy a large one from them. I have a 50 gallon frag Tank from them and am very unimpressed by it. The only thing is the price but this is one area where I would not cheap out on. Try Miracle, coast to coast, or AGE. All make great tanks. I have a 10' tank and it is acrylic....have you thought about this ? A remote sump is definitely the way to go. There are so many other things to consider when doing a large build. My advise is do lots and lots of homework in the design phase. Another huge issue I am having with my 10' tank is flow....this is fun.....:banghead:
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