nyfireman3097
Senior Member
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- Staten Island New York
what size tank is this again ?
Might Have Spoke to Soon..=(
- Thread starter Chris5
- Start date
This is a 65g tank we are talking about and i bought live sand from the petstore i forget the name something like agra-sand or something....i barely have a sand bed now....been skimming all day as well and tanks seems to be trying to turn green still....even after the water change.....
nyfireman3097
Senior Member
- Location
- Staten Island New York
well one thing to watch for since there might be copper in the system is when everythingis good if you have problems w/ keepin inverts alive then you might have to get a new tank just keep doing beig WC for a few days should help out
- Location
- Upper West Side
Carbon does remove copper as well as other heavy metals from the water.
As for the silicone and rocks, my gut tells me that if the brass fitting was small enough it may not have leached enough copper into the system to be of any serious (long term) concerns. The sand may be a different story- way too much surface area there.
Copper will have no direct affect on algae growth. The effects he is seeing are secondary. (The death of secile invertebrates led to increased nutrient load and gave the algae a ton of food.)
As was mentioned, it is important for you to do some reading before trying to keep delicate invertebrates alive. I recommend you pick up one or two basic books then move on to something like Sprung & Delbeek's Coral Reef Aquarium.
-Alfred
As for the silicone and rocks, my gut tells me that if the brass fitting was small enough it may not have leached enough copper into the system to be of any serious (long term) concerns. The sand may be a different story- way too much surface area there.
Copper will have no direct affect on algae growth. The effects he is seeing are secondary. (The death of secile invertebrates led to increased nutrient load and gave the algae a ton of food.)
As was mentioned, it is important for you to do some reading before trying to keep delicate invertebrates alive. I recommend you pick up one or two basic books then move on to something like Sprung & Delbeek's Coral Reef Aquarium.
-Alfred
Well the good thing is i dont have an inverts right now....that was the start though of the problems when my cleaner shrimp just died after having him for so long....as of now i am skimming like a mo-fo and put in some stuff for phosphates bc i have a feeling it may be a part of the problem as well as carbon, will try and find the other stuff culprizorb tomorrow....so more water changes you think will help? i did a 45% one today should i try another one tomoorrw or wait a day?
and by the way all this stuff happened awhile ago and it wasnt until after i got back from vaca in FL that my tank was green i had someone watching it and feeding fish, maybe over feeding could have been culprit but i have done a complete system change (new sand and 100% water change, the sunday that just passed) ....
and by the way all this stuff happened awhile ago and it wasnt until after i got back from vaca in FL that my tank was green i had someone watching it and feeding fish, maybe over feeding could have been culprit but i have done a complete system change (new sand and 100% water change, the sunday that just passed) ....
Alfredo De La Fe said:
Carbon absorbs copper but at a very low rate, = useless
The copper killing sessile inverts and causing a n03 spike although not too far-fetched would only result in heavy macro-algal blooms IMO
we're dealing w/ Green water..its def. micro
try leaving your lights off all day and see if it has any impact on the tank...if your actively reducing nutrients in your (WC and skimming) darkness will help effectively shut their second food source...give it a shot
Remember its not always sunny in the tropics anyway
Remember its not always sunny in the tropics anyway
Wow chris ,srry for the hearth ache .I was reading this .I am looking into a propuct made my Boyd company ,but i forgot the name of the media .,It absorbs all the copper out of you tank ,I call my LFS that had them in stock ,But they are out of them till tuesday .Hang in ,I will see what i can do to find out what the name is .As for the Brass ,if it is not off already ,Do it ASAP .as for that media ,Ill do a search on it
From what i have heard ,It works well
From what i have heard ,It works well
cool, thanks Jim, and everyone else again...ahhh so frustrating....well we should save this post for others just in case if it all clears up sometime in the future ....because at this point i will be trying everything, to see what works.....
I wanna keep my lights off but will that have an effect on the corals (leathers) that i have?? also should i do a water change tomorrow again or to soon?
I wanna keep my lights off but will that have an effect on the corals (leathers) that i have?? also should i do a water change tomorrow again or to soon?
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- 11756
Chris5 said:
It won't hurt, as it was said to me when I had a blackout just think of it as a stormy day on the reef
.I just dont get it, i really dont, just tested the water everything is to the "T" of stable, nothing is out of range....very very weird what else is missing in this equation of green water? Could this all be from metals present in the water? All of a sudden?
My 30g bow never went through this at all, not even close and it was running with small bio wheel and skilter filters...even with tap water for a little more than a year nothing went south....I havent even seen one pod in this tank yet, since it went up....
It couldnt be due to my PCs being just to much could it? I have 4-55w 12ks and 1 30w Acntic....bc i recently switched over from 10ks to 12ks but it was a couple weeks before this all happened....
My 30g bow never went through this at all, not even close and it was running with small bio wheel and skilter filters...even with tap water for a little more than a year nothing went south....I havent even seen one pod in this tank yet, since it went up....
It couldnt be due to my PCs being just to much could it? I have 4-55w 12ks and 1 30w Acntic....bc i recently switched over from 10ks to 12ks but it was a couple weeks before this all happened....
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- Howell, NJ
pisan, u need some help here lolz... i feel bad for ya bro. i dont no if this question was asked but are you using ro di water. i hope u aint using reg. tap water. that will make the situation worse.
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- 11756
Chris5,
PC definately aren't the problem here. Thats very little light for a 65g.
Everything that you can test for may be in check, but what about everything else that we can't test for? I'd go with whats been said;
1. Perform the 100% water change
2. Run all the media(s) that were previously suggested to you
3. Ditch all the brass(If you haven't done so already).
Hope it works out for you.
-Kris
PC definately aren't the problem here. Thats very little light for a 65g.
Everything that you can test for may be in check, but what about everything else that we can't test for? I'd go with whats been said;
1. Perform the 100% water change
2. Run all the media(s) that were previously suggested to you
3. Ditch all the brass(If you haven't done so already).
Hope it works out for you.
-Kris
Hey Chris ,
Can you tell us Exactly what you have in your tank ,Rock ,sand (what kind and where from ) aside from the Brass check valve ,where and what type of water are you using ,salt ,additves if you are using ..prety much a run down of everything that you use to run your tank ,and dont leave anything out .plz ,like that check valve ,LOL
Can you tell us Exactly what you have in your tank ,Rock ,sand (what kind and where from ) aside from the Brass check valve ,where and what type of water are you using ,salt ,additves if you are using ..prety much a run down of everything that you use to run your tank ,and dont leave anything out .plz ,like that check valve ,LOL
- Location
- Howell, NJ
yea im gettin tired of seeing my pisan stressing ova this tank help us help you dude.
- Location
- Ossining, NY
I have to go there to see WTF is going on - I just cant stand it.
House
House
Ok well here is the rundown and than ill tell you guys what i have noticed in the past 12 hrs....
-65g Glass Tank
-20g Wet/Dry Sump (w/LR) and Quietone 3000 (780gph)
(Bottom of Overflow is plumbed with pvc to sump, return comes from pump via clear tubing to elbow back into tank like a power head) -Took off brass check valve....
-10-15lbs LR from FTUSA had for about 1.5yrs carried over from 30gbow
-40-55lbs LR from Danny (MReefer) got at the start of 65g
-New Live Sand (as of Sunday that passed) Agra-Sand or something like that...Not home depot sand....
-Oceanic salt, havent put any additives into tank thus far....with the exception of Aqua Plus Conditioner for Water here and there.....
-Using RO water stage 1....(that could be better i know but i swear in the days of the 30g i used straight up tap water and never had a problem) ...not condeming it just the way it worked out) ....but this is a step up for me....
Livestock:
-2 Tangs
-1 Damsel
Some assorted leathers and zoas/polyps....
-Jebo PC light Fixture (good enough for softies) w/acnitic fixture
-Aqaurium systems skimmer
-Skilter Filter running just for extra flow...
-3 Power Heads
-Heater
-Digi Temp w/probe
Now the semi good news with the addition to phosphate media i have noticed in the past 12 hrs a light clearing in the cloudyness, could be good news could be that i turned the lights off early last night and havent turned em back on only acntic.....Also have been running the skimmer for the past 24hrs straight...
-65g Glass Tank
-20g Wet/Dry Sump (w/LR) and Quietone 3000 (780gph)
(Bottom of Overflow is plumbed with pvc to sump, return comes from pump via clear tubing to elbow back into tank like a power head) -Took off brass check valve....
-10-15lbs LR from FTUSA had for about 1.5yrs carried over from 30gbow
-40-55lbs LR from Danny (MReefer) got at the start of 65g
-New Live Sand (as of Sunday that passed) Agra-Sand or something like that...Not home depot sand....
-Oceanic salt, havent put any additives into tank thus far....with the exception of Aqua Plus Conditioner for Water here and there.....
-Using RO water stage 1....(that could be better i know but i swear in the days of the 30g i used straight up tap water and never had a problem) ...not condeming it just the way it worked out) ....but this is a step up for me....
Livestock:
-2 Tangs
-1 Damsel
Some assorted leathers and zoas/polyps....
-Jebo PC light Fixture (good enough for softies) w/acnitic fixture
-Aqaurium systems skimmer
-Skilter Filter running just for extra flow...
-3 Power Heads
-Heater
-Digi Temp w/probe
Now the semi good news with the addition to phosphate media i have noticed in the past 12 hrs a light clearing in the cloudyness, could be good news could be that i turned the lights off early last night and havent turned em back on only acntic.....Also have been running the skimmer for the past 24hrs straight...
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- Marine Park
Was it one of those bags of "Live Sand" from an LFS? I doubt that those are good, I mean there is no air exchange and those sit on store shelves for months. I can't believe that anything could survive living in a closed plastic bag for months. Anyhow, this may be part of the new cycle. Continue the skimming, carbon and poly pads and try to limit the nutriants that you add to the tank.
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