Freshwater Dip Too Long?

[FlyTekk]

So ick broke out in my tank. I followed instructions i got from an article online to freshwater dip with Meth blue and then quarenteen for up to 8 weeks with hypposalinity water.

I did this. But in the instructions it said to check the fish in the freshwater/methblue dip every 5 minutes till 30 minutes to insure they ok.

We around the 20 minute mark they were fine. At 25 minutes on was at the top gasping and was falling backwards. ANother started to do the same. I imediately removed them and inserted them in the QT tank. There they...

.....died.

Only....

they didnt. Cause after about 30 seconds of floating motionless on their side.... they began to swim again.

They passed out and came back too quite a few times after that. Eventually they got back to normal.

That was yesterday. Today all signs of parasites are gone. They seem to pick at food but not really eat. Other than that they look fine.

What happened? Were they dipped for too long? Do fish normally pass out and come too? Has anyone seen this before?

Will they be ok?

 

[marrone]

The fish probably went into shock, you need to watch the fish very closely when you give them a fish water dip/bathes, as some fish can tolerate dip/bathes longer than others. As for the dip/bathes actually working against ich, well that's highly unlikely. The ich actually lives inside the fish and the dip/bathes will have little, if any, effect on it. Even the ich that you can see, which is the finally stage before it falls off and starts over again, can remain on the fish during the dip/bathes. As for the fish look better, well this is very common. The ich has fallen off the fish and now is waiting to start over again. So unless you do something, like use copper or hypo, the fish will be re-affected again.

 

[FlyTekk]

They are currently in a 20 gallon tank with salinity at 1.010. The freshwater/meth blue bath took place in between display tank and QT. They will stay there for 8 weeks.

I did the bath not soo much cause of ick but of any other secondary (or primary illness). My chomis which brought the illnesses are showing various symptons including ick.

But tell me more about this shock thing. Willl they recover completely from this shock?

 

[Master Shake]

putting fish in a fresh dip is the equivalent to a 300lb man stepping on your head, 30 minutes let alone 20 is wayyyyy too long. 30 seconds to a minute is long enuff. if you have a fish only tank keep the salinity around 16 anyway to keep disease and sickness to a minimum. or if you have a reeef tank just medicate with herbtana, the only true effective reef safe medication

 

[InfernoST]

I've only ever treated any fish that had ich with hyposalinity treatment, contrary to what many say it is actually less stressful on the fish because they are able to breathe better. What you have to watch out for is when you bring them out of hyposalinity, it must be done very slowly because as you increase the salinity the fish has to work harder to breathe so increase your salinity very slowly. On another note, your DT should remain fishless for 6 to 8 weeks so the ich doesn't have a host to propogate itself and will die off only then will it be safe to return the fish to the DT. Whatever you do don't let any copper get into the DT, If you used copper in your QT remember that it was used for copper treatment and don't use it for any corals because some of the copper is absorbed into the silicone and will leach into the water the next time your QT is filled again. Be patient and Good luck, Oh yeah welcome to MR.

 

[marrone]

They are currently in a 20 gallon tank with salinity at 1.010. The freshwater/meth blue bath took place in between display tank and QT. They will stay there for 8 weeks.

I did the bath not soo much cause of ick but of any other secondary (or primary illness). My chomis which brought the illnesses are showing various symptons including ick.

But tell me more about this shock thing. Willl they recover completely from this shock?

SG of 1.010 is too high, it need to be 1.007-1.008. You also need to use a refractormeter to measure the SG, as anything about will not work.

They should recover from the shock, and already have, otherwise they'll be dead.

 

[Dre]

As stated earlier every fish is different. Some marine fish can tolorate longer fresh water baths than others. Size of the fishes should be brought into consideration as well.The freshwater pH and temperature should be the same as the QT.

 

[jaa1456]

putting fish in a fresh dip is the equivalent to a 300lb man stepping on your head, 30 minutes let alone 20 is wayyyyy too long. 30 seconds to a minute is long enuff. if you have a fish only tank keep the salinity around 16 anyway to keep disease and sickness to a minimum. or if you have a reeef tank just medicate with herbtana, the only true effective reef safe medication

Herbtana is garbage and does not work. It doesn't even kill ICH it just helps the fishes immune and build a thicker slime coat. A fish that is infected badly that could be saved by a copper treatment will ultimately die with Herbtana as a treatment. Not to mention Herbtana will kill some inverts. I used it in a small reef tank, both of my cleaner shrimp were dead the next day. Kind of weird considering they were in the tank for 8 months. I introduced 2 more cleaners into the tank after a large water change. Treated the fish again with herbtana, both cleaners were dead the next day. This time I lost zoas and hermits. The fish never got any better and died. I wrote herbtana several times about this and no response what so ever. So I wrote to them again asking where I can buy their products and I got plenty of emails back. So I tried again about losing inverts no response. It is such a useless and garbage product. Mastershake maybe your fish were healthier and fought off the Ich naturally as i have seen in the past with no treatment.