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tentacles

cephalopod enthusiast
Rating - 95%
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what about a karma point system?
give good advice, get good karma from members

more karma, gets you more respect.

I think a system like this has the potential to work. You should be able to vote negatively as well, I'm noticing a real onslaught of people give absolutely terrible advice. It would have to be moderated though, because you know how people are.

Also, maybe a post count specific to the type of forum. A lot of people have high post counts, but they're all from the marketplace and nudibar (or arguing...)
 

Wes

Advanced Reefer
Location
Raleigh, NC
Rating - 100%
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Most threads are made to start to ask questions. Whenever someone answers, and the person asking the questions feels it's the right answer, they should be able to simply click something under their avatar giving that person a check mark, and the tally keeps going showing they gave an accurate answer

I like this idea. People could click "Agree" or "Disagree" on a post and remain anonymous. If you say something that is just wrong, the poll/tally will reflect that and people wouldn't have to get into an argument just because they "disagree"

If your total Agree to Disagree ratio reaches certain levels you can move up in the ranks as someone who gives good advice.
 

NYreefNoob

Skimmer Freak
Location
poughquag, ny
Rating - 99.4%
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in all honesty what it reads doesnt bother me, i know a few people on here, and have a few that if i have a real problem or question i contact. tank crash's dont mean crap as far as experiance, pending type of crash. id say atleast 50% of member of longer then 5 years have had some type of crash and just dont post about it. i generally dont comment unless i have a clue and might be able to add positively to the thread.
in all honesty add some more mods to go through and clear out the junk post people are doing on threads that are actually asking questions and getting stupid post pads on the thread that arent offering any help.
 

wonderballz

Advanced Reefer
Rating - 100%
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One of the Cell Phone forums I go to has a "Thanks" button. When someone posts something with good info, other members "thanks" the post and it shows how many times a thread/post was thanked, and who thanked it. I am just not sure if it applies the count to the particular member.
 

jaa1456

MR's Greatest Member
Rating - 100%
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Why would someone want to pad their post count on here? You don't win anything or get any extras from it, well at least that I know of. And you can't give a thumbs up and thumbs down to advice either. Every tank is different with different cirumstances. Also how do you know the person taking the advice did everything right when following the advice. If the person with the problem did their research to begin with most problems could be avoided. Yet instead of researching something they just ask on here and get all types of advice and I bet they won't research that either. I only give advice on subjects that I have had experience with and pass on the ones I don't know about. But everything comes down to one thing shouldn't you giving the thumbs up and downs to the people with the problems? And this will cause other people not to post and people with good advice and beautiful tanks will not post because they will be afraid of ridicule. This system is not gonna work at all. The best way to do it would be by word of mouth. Refer someone with a problem to a member that you know can help out. I have seen some lame advice on here. Or just let the system be and tell the people to stop being lazy and RESEARCH and look at more than one book or website, Look at several. Most likely you will find your answer.
 

jaa1456

MR's Greatest Member
Rating - 100%
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just curious what are some of the lame advise.really curious as to what a lame comment is.is it just advise that never worked for you.can you give us an example
I really don't ask for advice, I'm talking about Advice I have seen. I don't remember everything I have seen, but one example is a guy asking for help in his Reef to cure ich and another member telling him Hyposalinity will work and will not affect his corals and inverts. Another one that comes to mind is someone saying that heater wattage is equal to Aquarium volume. 1 watt per gallon, So a 50 gallon tank would only need a 50 watt heater. I mean all you have to do is read the box and it will tell you what size tank it is for. Those are just 2 that come to mind. I'm sure if I thought about it or looked through all the posts I could point out quite a few more. And you also have people that just totaly ignore advice even when it is written 10 times in one thread. QT your fish, Nope I don't do that no need to worry I trust the LFS. And 2 weeks later same guy is saying help my tank is full of Ick and my fish are dying, What do I do? Go read the thread where you ignored the advice and take that for starters.
 

Alex

Pretzel in Orange M&M
Location
staten island
Rating - 100%
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Although this is a good idea, it lacks in enforcement. You will find that most people will get some advice from someone and then just regurgitate that same response without having any experience in the matter other than "hearsay" or an "I told you so". Even though some of the people on this forum have some positive answers others just rephrase what was said and make it their own. Now how can you really know that either person has any idea what they are saying is true or even works. Most people we meet on this site have merit in their advice, while others simply don't have a clue. As some of you know I had a tank crash late last year. I lost so much that I was frustrated and even though I knew what the cause should have been, It was not. It took a conversation with a friend for me to figure out why my tank crashed and what had to be done. I won't state what the problem was because most know and I don't wish to begin the debate. But this was one occurrence where the answer was not the normal response. We have all seen the LED debate about what works and doesn't work. we have also seen the sand bed debate. yet for both issues there are people on opposite sides of the issue that have valid proof that that their ideas work. how about if we use the old saying and of "buyer beware" and make it our own " Advice taker, beware" or at least question the validity of that advice before taking it and using it on your tank.
As for post counts, members will always find a way around those, be it a "bump" or "+1" or anything else. Let's realize that even a wise man has more to learn and if thats the case then we all have more to learn.
 

Og Drogon

Freshwater monster
Location
Apopka, Florida
Rating - 94.1%
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I really don't ask for advice, I'm talking about Advice I have seen. I don't remember everything I have seen, but one example is a guy asking for help in his Reef to cure ich and another member telling him Hyposalinity will work and will not affect his corals and inverts. Another one that comes to mind is someone saying that heater wattage is equal to Aquarium volume. 1 watt per gallon, So a 50 gallon tank would only need a 50 watt heater. I mean all you have to do is read the box and it will tell you what size tank it is for. Those are just 2 that come to mind. I'm sure if I thought about it or looked through all the posts I could point out quite a few more. And you also have people that just totaly ignore advice even when it is written 10 times in one thread. QT your fish, Nope I don't do that no need to worry I trust the LFS. And 2 weeks later same guy is saying help my tank is full of Ick and my fish are dying, What do I do? Go read the thread where you ignored the advice and take that for starters.

+1 Jaa1456 I give you a thumbs up for that advice :) (HUGS:)
 

Bilk

Active Reefer
Location
NYC
Rating - 0%
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I know I'm new here and have been out of the hobby for years, but I did have about 15 years of prior experience. Maintained 3 reefs of various sizes at the same time. I guess the smaller are called nano reefs now. I also had a 10g micro reef doing well for about 5 years.

That said, isn't it important for each person to research on their own and find the "truth" of the matter, for there will almost always be varying opinions even among the truly informed. I think rating members somewhat stratifies the community and that I don't think is the intent. A person must look for all options and then choose what they believe to be the best course of action. There are many ways to skin a cat in this hobby.
 

NYreefNoob

Skimmer Freak
Location
poughquag, ny
Rating - 99.4%
168   1   0
bilk one of the issue's has been people who really dont have a clue and just reply, that dont really read a post, they just post something to post. i am by far from a expert in the hobby. i am a equiptment junkie though and have tried alot of different stuff and brands and like to think i can make a good skimmer or t5 reccomendation to people from prior usage. as i put on your other post, this hobby has changed alot over the last few years. some for the better some for the worse. the equiptment has made leaps and bounds in a good way.
My friend jim brought up a good point as he has been on here awhile, reads alot but just doesnt post much and has a really nice 90g mixed and a awesome 300g being finished up.
how about a 24 hr ban for stupid post,

one of the things is if and when people have been told the correct answer or that their info really isnt correct or wrong then they think your attacking them. or trying to make them look stupid.
ive always said it and still do, the person giving the advise look at their tank, if it looks like crap then more then likely so is their info
 

jaa1456

MR's Greatest Member
Rating - 100%
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My theory is this, If you are to lazy to research anything for your tank, Well then you don't need a tank. And you can't ban people for 24 hours for a stupid post. What if it sounds stupid and outrageous but it really works? There is always more than one way to skin a cat.
 

Jzhou

Advanced Reefer
Location
whitestone
Rating - 100%
43   0   0
My theory is this, If you are to lazy to research anything for your tank, Well then you don't need a tank. And you can't ban people for 24 hours for a stupid post. What if it sounds stupid and outrageous but it really works? There is always more than one way to skin a cat.
+1, i wished they had a like feature on this site. Makes things easier.
 

TRIGGERMAN

Advanced Reefer
Location
Staten Island
Rating - 100%
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Personally I only speak from experience..as Alex said LED debates, sand or bare bottom debates whatever I say is personal experience not something I grabbed from another post and regurgitated. I am far from an expert but the time that I have been an avid user of this site I already know who knows what they are talking about and who is just flapping. As Rick stated he is an equipment junkie and if I had a question especially about a skimmer I know he would be the man to talk to. As for calculating pumps w/ head height and all that crap that's the 1 thing I never really read up on and have no clue about so whenever anyone has a question I tell them to ask Russ. I know he is good with that and if it helps support one of our vendors by getting him a sale then even better. I think more mods could be a good idea as well. I'd be more than happy to volunteer. I'm on this site more than most people anyway I might as well help out.
 

Bilk

Active Reefer
Location
NYC
Rating - 0%
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Pretty much what I said. I think censuring or otherwise isn't appropriate in an open forum. Just like anything else in this world it's "caveat emptor". Me thinks only "stupid and lzay" people accept "stupid advice". Heck the person offering the "stupid advice" may actually learn the error of their mistake when reading other responses to the same question. If they're argumentative, so be it, unless they cross a line. Then a ban is appropriate.

My theory is this, If you are to lazy to research anything for your tank, Well then you don't need a tank. And you can't ban people for 24 hours for a stupid post. What if it sounds stupid and outrageous but it really works? There is always more than one way to skin a cat.
 

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