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duke62

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seriously d you think they will stop..unless there is a world wide ban it will continue to happen.so its either the sharks die or there children and family starve.its good money for the fisherman.believe me im not saying its right i think its horrible what they do but it is what they do.
 
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I can understand fishermen who kill fish and sell it to support their families and I'm not all about "animals are friends not food" kinda thing, because I would be a hypocrite- I eat meat too. But killing millions of sharks every year just for a couple of fins and throwing the rest of it still alive back to the ocean is a huge waste of life. It's like we here in US would be killing cows just to get meat for steak and throwing the rest of it to rot on the landfill.
 

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I can understand fishermen who kill fish and sell it to support their families and I'm not all about "animals are friends not food" kinda thing, because I would be a hypocrite- I eat meat too. But killing millions of sharks every year just for a couple of fins and throwing the rest of it still alive back to the ocean is a huge waste of life. It's like we here in US would be killing cows just to get meat for steak and throwing the rest of it to rot on the landfill.


Actually, it's more like cutting the udder and legs off a cow and sending it wriggling in pain back into the field to die a slow death. :sad2:

What a tragic waste of life. As stated, utilize the entire shark or leave it alone.

Russ
 

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Just leave them alone. Like the cow analogy.
Shark finning is inhumane and there is no reason for it. At all. I saw the effects of this barbaric practice when I lived in the Bahamas. Dozens of half dead sharks left to die on the reef. We reported it and I heard they were caught since it was within a preserve.
I do not care about the fishermen who practice this butchery. People feed their families from human trafficking but that doesn't make it any more excusable.
 

CHEMCHEF

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This is an insane practice, and something I woud never consider serving. It has been going on for a very long time. It's amazing what cultures will do to eat some imaginary aphrodisiac. Plus it sucks. Kinda like eating a bowl of salty snot.
 

duke62

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like i said i also think its horrible but realistically it wont end.even if it is banned they will still do it.it runs down from generation to generation and if they cant buy it legally it wll be done illegally.either underground fisheries or they will fish them themselves.just like aything else in this world.people know its no good for them but they shoot heoin.people know gorillas are endangered but they still cut off there hands for ashtrays.by banning it world wide it will save thousands of sharks but if people dont see its wrong it will still happen.if they make it legal but they have to use the whole sharks as well for meatthey will buy bigger boats and still kill the shark the same way but the shark will suffer on the boat with no fins.what needs to be done is a ban on commercial fishing with sharks and other species and only pole fishing.also have a certain size boat that can fish for these sharks.there also has to be a ban on using chemicals on catching fish to use in aquariums.
 

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Shark cartilage is used for more than just soup...most if not all are based on lies (ie "eating shark cartilage prevents cancer bc sharks dont get disease".....which is wrong bc sharks do get disease).


The problem with sharks is much larger than you realize. Shark over fishing will drastically reduced shark populations. Reduced shark populations will in turn allow more fish to live from lack of hunters on top of food chain. This increase in fish will then eat more plankton. Plankton create 80% of the world's oxygen. With more fish eating all the plankton, the planet can not create enough oxygen to sustain human life.
*****This is the claim of the creator of "Sharkwater", I have not researched this myself.******* I found many different % for phytoplankton oxygen production ranging from 40-80% of earths production.

Remember the "save the rain forrest" campaign in the 80's or 90's? If this is real, it may be a much greater problem
 
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nyc reefer

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Shark Finning

Its very disturbing to see what careless disregard they have for the animal, its just about money to them. Wasteful, if their excuse is they do it to feed their families, why not bring back the whole animal and FEED their family? Their motive is not out of necessity but just GREED!!! :irked:
 

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like i said i also think its horrible but realistically it wont end.

Just need harsher punishment.

If you start lopping parts off of people, then tossing them into situations where they need them, it may scare people into stopping.

For instance... Chop a finner's legs off, then put them in a field of hungry army ants. It's a bit old testament, but appropriate here.
 

Imbarrie

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Ban the end product and the dinners will have no market. But this is just one of many completely immoral practices that need to be addressed.
There is also the slaughter of dolphins.
How can a modern and responsible society be so blind to their own cruelty?
 

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It is illegal for consumers to purchase 'hot' electronics. You can be arrested for it. If serving shark fin soup was made illegal, both the restaurant, and the consumer would risk legal action. Hopefully that would limit the disgusting act of mutilation we see in the video. We know it won't eliminate it, but severely reducing the demand could put a hurt on the industry and save thousands upon thousands of sharks.

Russ
 
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The only solution to the problem of shark finning is to reduce the demand. This would require major public relations efforts in China, but it can be done. Its happening in Japan, where there is growing opposition to the use of whale meat. In theory, I support a ban. Unfortunately though, experience has shown that a ban simply creates a more profitable black market. Its happened with caviar, and several populations of lady's slipper orchids have been collected to the point of local extinction in the wild, all thinks to CITES bans that makes smuggling and illegal collecting extremely profitable. Unfortunately, while a ban can lead to big penalties (if enforced) to smugglers and salesmen, it does next to nothing to punish consumers. At most the contraband is confiscated, and the consumer gets some kind of fine.
 
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Why not propose alternate source of income or better technique of harvesting.

The real disturbing thing we saw here is that the way they harvest is inhumane. If the shark, a known predator, is kill in short order, then there is no more problem. As for waste, may be we can create better dish using shark meat or such(that's what we are doing with lion fish) In fact, the shark are not really wasted because where they are harvested, they will be eaten by other sharks in no time. I guess the shark flesh would not pollute the ocean at that quantity. Let them die slowly is very inhumane. However, I seen how the industry skin the shrimps alive, million times a year. A lot of live shrimps are skinned live too!!!!! Do we ban all skinned shrimps end products-I guess not. We continue the cruelty for they are our food. If we can make use of the the shark flesh, and kill them in short order then it will be acceptable to our own so called high moral ground.

It's actually in the film that the fisherman know it's illegal to land the fins without the body attached, they still do it, meaning clearly that they do not care about the law banning such action. It's clear money is at play. A capitalistic way to solve the problem would be finding them something they can harvest and make more money than the shark fin industry.

I also see a problem that the fisherman do not observe the endanger list, either they don't care or they do not know. The only hope is after we promoted the idea to them about the theory of endanger list, they would start to realize the importance and act on their own.
 

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