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RARECLOWNSNJ

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High Grade Black Ice?

What does that mean?

What makes a fish high grade, low grade, mid grade?

Im not defending wingo either im just curious to hear what makes a high grade fish.

ORA does this too and it makes no sense, they set the standard of what constitutes a grade a, grade b clownfish.

Who even breeds black ice clowns?
 

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I think it is time for this thread to be closed. PMs work wonders. We have gone from identification to arguing over an incident between two parties. All I wanted to see was pictures of some examples of Black Ice Clowns.
 

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black ice clowns

I think it is time for this thread to be closed. PMs work wonders. We have gone from identification to arguing over an incident between two parties. All I wanted to see was pictures of some examples of Black Ice Clowns.


I agree...enough said....point made....time to move on.......
 

xclusive252

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Ask wingo he said his clowns are high grade I expected a nice clown and didn't receive one that day. And yes I started this post to make sure I received what I paid for

High Grade Black Ice?

What does that mean?

What makes a fish high grade, low grade, mid grade?

Im not defending wingo either im just curious to hear what makes a high grade fish.

ORA does this too and it makes no sense, they set the standard of what constitutes a grade a, grade b clownfish.

Who even breeds black ice clowns?



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I was upset for sure-you are very correct! Because when you bought back the 100% true Black Ice and claimed that I cheated you and I heard your mentor(possibly a stealth vendor anyway as he is promoting designer clownfish for a Florida breeder and asked members to PM him privately) said, the fish is nothing like a Black Ice, I knew you are swayed. You also mentioned about the Black Ice from Pacific East is nothing like the fish I gave you. Not only that I saw their fish, I actually know who sold them the fish very well and, I know, they look similar to mine. I suspected, at the time, that either you try to make an excuse to get a more expensive fish or your mentor try to ripped me off a $20.

Good that there are photos taken of my fish in the swap by a third party proofing all the Black Ice lookalikes are not what you and your mentors try to portrait. So can you point out which is the fish you are referring to in the pic.? I personally think you are too emotionally swayed by your mentors who have other agendas that all your reasoning are clouded. Please read back your own statement and rethink about your mind set when you wrote this in the OP,
Please be honest and dont hold back I rather find the truth out and not worry or find the truth out and ask for a refund as I alrdy had a problem with the first 1 I received.
At the time, your wrote the above, your mind is still set at I cheated you the fish and that the fish I gave you is not Black Ice.

When I showed you the pic, you automatically reject the truth that's the fish I have given you

And after hearing that everyone in the forum said the fish you got now is a Black Ice, one of your mentor said,
this one looks like a black ice. The first one that was given to you was questionable.
I bet your mentors did not expect a third party pic showing all my Black Ice lookalikes in the swap. I sincerely asked you and your mentors to point out which is the fish you are referring is questionable. You even said in post #11 that the fish I show you is not the one given to you in the swap, then please show us which fish you are given from the pic taken by the third party to prove your claim.

Correct that I am not a good business man who would withhold my emotion and swallow accusation that people falsely make of. I have my principles such as I would never be so low to smear other peoples products knowing that's not the case.

The personal attract
Wingo you was upset and acted like a idiot be a man and man up.
has no effect on me to make me mad because it only shows that you don't know better in accepting the truth but use another tactics to retaliate. However, false accusations and that you are being used by other talker behind your ears do make me mad. Well, at least I am man enough to show you guys all the proofs and conversations thus far publicly. Only those who hide their attacks behind others' ears are not man enough. With this said, I think you are a stand up guy because you believe in you are cheated and act on it(actually continually to act on it even though proven wrong by now.) Unfortunately, you are not aware talkers behind your ears have their agendas. I also see that you wish to do good to other people in the hobby so am I. But these good personality of us have nothing to do with the fact that both times you were given a good Black Ice and that I have proven it while you are still stuck with the mind set of me cheating you the Black Ice and still making empty allegations.
 
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Ask wingo he said his clowns are high grade I expected a nice clown and didn't receive one that day. And yes I started this post to make sure I received what I paid for





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You made another allegation without showing the fish. Can you point out which Black Ice lookalike is not of high grade from the pics of my Black Ice in the swap?

OK, I agreed with others that our points are made and we should move on and discuss the incident in another channel.

I will bow out for now.
 
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