First Sump Diagram: is it ok?
- Thread starter rebar
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I agree with inline6's design. I reccomend getting 3 more pieces of glass and folloing that format. It's really not much harder to DIY this design.
Also..the height of your dividers is kind of high. You need to ensure you have enough volume to be able to handle backsiphon in case of power outage.
Also..the height of your dividers is kind of high. You need to ensure you have enough volume to be able to handle backsiphon in case of power outage.
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- Westbury L.i
i would reccomend a few more baffles like inline6's design.........u will have microbubbles coming from the skimmer....there will also be bubbles coming down the drain pipe .....doesnt matter if you have internal or external ovefflows.....
- Location
- New Rochelle
It is not going to work well.
1) The skimmer chamber is going to have water level of more than 15". Do you know how deep the ASM skimmer is supposed to be submerged under water? I think it is a lot less than 15".
2) The issue with microbubbles: Even though you have a build in overflow, you will still have microbubbles from the overflow. Plus you will have microbubbles from your skimmer and water coming down the drain pipe of the skimmer. You are definitely better off putting in baffles.
3) How high are you planning on keeping the water level in the return chamber? Anything less than 14" will cause the water to come down to the water surface and causes more microbubbles.
4) Back siphon issue and potential overflowing the sump as mentioned by others.
1) The skimmer chamber is going to have water level of more than 15". Do you know how deep the ASM skimmer is supposed to be submerged under water? I think it is a lot less than 15".
2) The issue with microbubbles: Even though you have a build in overflow, you will still have microbubbles from the overflow. Plus you will have microbubbles from your skimmer and water coming down the drain pipe of the skimmer. You are definitely better off putting in baffles.
3) How high are you planning on keeping the water level in the return chamber? Anything less than 14" will cause the water to come down to the water surface and causes more microbubbles.
4) Back siphon issue and potential overflowing the sump as mentioned by others.
by shortening the baffle, you mean make it lower, correct? so instead of 15 and 14 inches, do 13 and 12. would that work. Two more questions: For the bubble trap, how far apart do i space the baffles? About 1/2 inch?
Also, how figh from the bottom should i put the added baffles? about 2 inches ok?
Also, how figh from the bottom should i put the added baffles? about 2 inches ok?
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- New Rochelle
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I'd go with a 12" first baffle and a 11" second. The other baffle (I'd go with just one for now) I'd put in so the water from the fuge goes under it then over the next one to the return section.
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I think the first compartment's wall is way too high. After the water tumbles into the fuge you will prob have enough of a drop to create even more bubles. Do what sharn suggested and throw some baffles in there. I really wish I did!
Your sump will hold approximately 9 additional gallons in the event of a power outage. Will this be enough? If you make the baffles 10 inches, this will give you around 12 and a half gallons. 10 inches will be easier for you to deal with the fact that you are going to have to elevate either one of the skimmers you want. (I'm pretty sure that they advise a 9 inch maximum operating height). You may have to make a platform for the skimmer to sit on.
Am I the only one who noticed that he cut into his skimmer section with the baffles rather than his fuge? What if you want to upgrade to a larger skimmer? The only way to upgrade a refugium is by removing it.
I would do away with the fuge. They aren't bad, but they just don't make enough of an impact on the system for you to squeeze out other equipment. 2 Phosban reactors will take up much less room and have a much greater impact.
Open up the sump more. You can space out the baffles a little better which will make cleaning the sump easier and this will also give you more room for top-off, and will significantly increase how much water the sump can hold if the power goes off.
A well designed sump focuses on the skimmer, cleanliness and it's ability to keep water from getting all over the floor when something bad happens.
Am I the only one who noticed that he cut into his skimmer section with the baffles rather than his fuge? What if you want to upgrade to a larger skimmer? The only way to upgrade a refugium is by removing it.
I would do away with the fuge. They aren't bad, but they just don't make enough of an impact on the system for you to squeeze out other equipment. 2 Phosban reactors will take up much less room and have a much greater impact.
Open up the sump more. You can space out the baffles a little better which will make cleaning the sump easier and this will also give you more room for top-off, and will significantly increase how much water the sump can hold if the power goes off.
A well designed sump focuses on the skimmer, cleanliness and it's ability to keep water from getting all over the floor when something bad happens.
thanks everyone. already designed it. i figured i can always close the overflow to the sump and re-do if i have to. I'll keep you posted. I'm not too worried about outages b/c i have my tank in my basement next to an actual sump on the ground that collects the rainwater from the yard and pumps it out and i'm go to make sure all my electrical is above and away from any potential water.
Go with the ER RS -100 instead of the RS - 80.
They both use the same pump and you simply can't go wrong with a larger skimmer, especially if you like to overstock or upgrade.
Like you already stated give yourself more room for the skimmer not the fuge.
They both use the same pump and you simply can't go wrong with a larger skimmer, especially if you like to overstock or upgrade.
Like you already stated give yourself more room for the skimmer not the fuge.
You should be happy with it, I run one also on a 58g.
A little noisy in terms of ambient noise, but I'm happy with the skimmate.
Never mind the water on the floor. When the power goes back on and you've lost a lot of water, you will now burn out your pumps. So now, power or no power, you've got burned pumps.
I also agree with Kenny... you are going to be tight. Cup removal may be a chore.
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