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nminunni

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I have a small tank (20g xt) without a fuge or sump. Has anyone had any success with macro algae in their display? I think it might look cool if I could find a way to contain it to one part of the tank, in addition to the added benefits to my tank.

I guess the real question is, are there types of macro I could add that would not migrate all over my tank? Is it possible to keep the macro under control or will it spread and cover my tank in algae?

Any thoughts or experience would be great.
 
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I have had caulerpa prolifera in my dt for 4 months with no problems depite other people warning me of it taking over. I let it grow and haven't trimmed it yet. I love it an my clowns love Hosting it too. I don't run lights at night. I think they say when it's stressed this can go a sexual and fowl the tank.. I just got my StevieT double submersible light so I may set up a rear fuge with chaeto. Maybe someone else can chime in.

I'm also interested to find out what other macro could be in the dt for some added color and add to the ocean feel
 

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I would like this to look natural, which is why I am shying away from chaeto a little, but I could be wrong on that.

Does anyone know a good way to isolate it so my tank isnt overrun with chaeto?

will the powerheads move the chaeto around too much?
 

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that's not accurate master shake. i've been running various types of caulerpa in my refugium for 5 years on a 12 hour photo period. as long as you keep harvesting it regularly, it won't hurt you.
i would use something like halimeda for aesthetics. alot of the caulerpas have anchoring roots and can really get a good hold on the rockwork and grow very fast. pulling excess out isn't the problem, it's having to live with it as long as you own the tank.
chaeto is not attractive. at least not to me.
 

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does anyone know of any places in queens that sell different macros? I would take chaeto if someone is giving some away, but what about these others types? I am trying to stay away from caulerpa but some of these others that stay manageable might be cool
 

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that's not accurate master shake. i've been running various types of caulerpa in my refugium for 5 years on a 12 hour photo period. as long as you keep harvesting it regularly, it won't hurt you.
i would use something like halimeda for aesthetics. alot of the caulerpas have anchoring roots and can really get a good hold on the rockwork and grow very fast. pulling excess out isn't the problem, it's having to live with it as long as you own the tank.
chaeto is not attractive. at least not to me.

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Some strains of chaeto aren't tough to control, but aesthetically a big green tumbleweed in the middle of DT doesn't appeal much to me either. Prolifera can be as invasive as the others, but can resemble seas grass and looks great in a biotope. But eventually you'll have to prune any macro. Halimeda's a great choice. Just keep Ca and Alk elevated to keep it green. It's nowhere near as invasive and a real snap to keep in check comparatively.
 

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OK I am looking for a shaving brush and some chaeto.

If anyone knows of someone or place in Queens that sells these, or anyone getting rid of cuttings around bayside let me know.
 

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I have had grape calerpa in my DT for months. Looks different and is not a pita to remove. I have transplanted it many times and it has never sprouted back. It's a very fast growing macro so it's a great nutrient sink.


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Cheato wont overrun the tank if you just do some basic trimming. Thats the benefits you get with macro anyway, the ability to trim, remove and export the nutrients. Cheato is also a great matrix for pods to thrive an populate.

Ive had Caulerpas in my fuge with the Cheato. Both Grape and Red Grape. It was prety crazy in there for a while as all macro was competing for nutrients. In the end Cheato won, forcing the green Grape to start turning yellow (go sexual?). At that point I just removed all the yellow stuff and since then only a rare branch or two turned yellow on me. This is running 12 on 12 off photoperiods. EAch time i discovered yellow, nothing in my MT seemed affected. BTW, in that macro battle royale, I also had some Shaving Brush (not great for nutrient control but looks cool). After new "trunks" sprouted up on its own in different locations, it began to grow nicely until it degraded and started growing in another place again. Now the SB is barely hanging on with the Cheato and Red Grape almost completely consuming the canopy above.

The Rep Grape is still in there with my Cheato. There were times were I had to trim that stuff too. It never seemed to go sexual although when the Cheato expanded too close, a red hair type growth would accumulate on the Red Grape's branches. Even still I leave it in the fuge next to the Cheato as I have a theory it promotes competition in there and allows for more aggressive nutrient uptake. Its just a theory though. Red Grape does look nice though and really looks good as a Seahorse anchoring tree.

As far as Green Caulerpa, Ive seen a few successful Coral propagators use it amongst their corals in a frag tank. Helps with nitrate and phosphate control and when it gets too thick, its removed.. permanently exporting the nutrients.

I have Halimeda in a couple tanks. I love it, some people dont care for because of their Ca needs. I think it adds a nice vibrant touch of green and nothing in the tank eats it. But instead of nutrient control, you get Ca usage. Defienelty a cool plant, have a couple sprouts popping out of the sand in remote locations, as well as the Mother plant which got its holdfasts firmly anchored to a large rock.

So thats basically my year long experience on macros nmimummi ;) hope it helps.

BTW a mix of Miracle Muds were used as a substrate in my refugium, MT is BB. The mud I beleive, contributed in at least some capacity to my results.
 
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I have never been able to keep plant life in my DT, either the tang, angels, or urchin always eat it faster than it can grow.


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I have a small tank (20g xt) without a fuge or sump. Has anyone had any success with macro algae in their display? I think it might look cool if I could find a way to contain it to one part of the tank, in addition to the added benefits to my tank.

I guess the real question is, are there types of macro I could add that would not migrate all over my tank? Is it possible to keep the macro under control or will it spread and cover my tank in algae?

Any thoughts or experience would be great.

Nminunni, check out my recent posts on this thread:
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/general-discussion/91859-re-webcam.html

You'll be able to access a live webcam of my 24 gal Cardiff tank (built-in filter/no sump). There are four types of Caulerpa in it, although the feather variety dominates. And, yes, it requires frequent pruning -- I give a lot away but I also have to throw a lot in the garbage!

I came to SW aquaria via many years of keeping planted FW tanks, so putting live plants in my SW tanks seemed the logical way to go!

George
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When I had a 34 gal solana I used a clear plastic container pooked holes in it then added suction cups and put cheto it grew like crazy every wc I'd rinse it and a ton of deritius would come out

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