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Dre

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Yes, even if it does kill ich (Not saying that it does). How often do you actually get ich that you need to run one 24/7. and if you don't run it 24/7 then is the costs justified how ever long you do use it?
I use to run the UV 24/7 when i just got in the hobby but now i run it only when needed.The tank doesn't get a lot of ick out brakes thank God because i try to make my fishes happy.My UV cost me about $180 over the course of 10 years no Meds.Now if i lost $100 worth of fish every year
for 10 years because i didn't make that $180 investment that would be how much?And don't say it can't happen because it happen ALL the time.
I've save more fish lives with it than without it.I value my fish very much i wouldn't what to get caught with my pants down.
 

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ive never run a uv, i own one.. but never hooked it up, i never had a parasite issue in any of my tanks(thank god) i was gonna use it for water clarity only.. bc it helps with algea bloom outbreaks.. but ive been really lucky in that aspect also.. i had one small outbreak but bc my phosban was old.. but if you used a good reputable fish suplier, use a QT, dip all your corals and do regular maintence(waterchanges, fresh reactor media) you have a good chance of being ok.. not definite(bc nothing is).. i have hooked it up on my new 220g but have not turned it on yet.. so we will see..

some people swear by them, and i see their points, others could care less abt them(me).. but its all on what you feel is better, like i said i have one, just incase, but havent used it.. but i do think that they are not all the same by anymeans and do your homework bc some definitly are better than others.. and i do believe(not 100% sure tho) that if the quarts breaks and the bulb fails it will poison your system..

BTW its a sterilizer
 
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Killerdrgn

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A UV is not a filter BTW so why would they mention it if you didn't mention it specifically.

Like in the article, they pointed out each step of the water flows between leaving the tank and returning to the tank. They mentioned everything listed in the article. I would assume if they didn't say it passes the UV light and then goes blah blah blah... That they wouldn't have it.

Ozone really isn't a filter either, but she mentioned that. (Yes it was a nice long conversation with a very attractive fish lady.)
 

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Dre said:
I'm not going to string this out because i'm not an expert on the subject I keep marine fish do a little reading and observe my animals carefully before making assumptions.With that said can you name at least one Public Aquarium in the U.S. that do not use UV's?

Public aquaria is not my business but I can assure you FDA regulation is MUCH more strict than public aquariums. UV was standard procedure for years. The study that proves it useless is recent.

Eventually, I imagine the knowledge will pass down to industries less "cutting edge" like public aquariums.


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Dre

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Like in the article, they pointed out each step of the water flows between leaving the tank and returning to the tank. They mentioned everything listed in the article. I would assume if they didn't say it passes the UV light and then goes blah blah blah... That they wouldn't have it.

Ozone really isn't a filter either, but she mentioned that. (Yes it was a nice long conversation with a very attractive fish lady.)
How many gals.of water they treat with Ozone every day? The largest tank in my possession is a 110 gal. i personaly wouldn't add a Ozone unit on it ,there is too much unknowns.
 
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Dre

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Public aquaria is not my business but I can assure you FDA regulation is MUCH more strict than public aquariums. UV was standard procedure for years. The study that proves it useless is recent.

Eventually, I imagine the knowledge will pass down to industries less "cutting edge" like public aquariums.


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Aquariums is our business as a hobby not food.I would think the public Aquariums are trying to keep their animals alive as long as possible on a larger scale.
 

Wes

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The difference is FDA's job is to protect human lives.

Aquariums try to keep fish alive.

Which industry do you think spends more on scientific research? Pharmaceutical or Sea World?


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Dre

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The difference is FDA's job is to protect human lives.

Aquariums try to keep fish alive.

Which industry do you think spends more on scientific research? Pharmaceutical or Sea World?


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Wes, i get your point ,as you stated earlier eventually the knowledge will pass down to the hobby.As for the research i've done so far, Ozone or UV's are used for water clarity and killing free floating parasites in the hobby/public aquariums.Manhattan Aquariums Ozone ,New World Ozone and UV's.Keep in mind these are very large systems.
 

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amazing guys. thank you. my question was based on that I have a UV that I run in my old freshwater system. it did miracles there leaving the water incredibly clear after fighting for months with algies. just wondering if that'd be the case in a reef too. is a 125g im setting up.
 

Killerdrgn

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amazing guys. thank you. my question was based on that I have a UV that I run in my old freshwater system. it did miracles there leaving the water incredibly clear after fighting for months with algies. just wondering if that'd be the case in a reef too. is a 125g im setting up.

If you wanted it for water clarity, then sure. But if it's for any other reason then probably not.
 

Dre

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Any evidence supporting the use of UV is anecdotal and there is no real
Proof that it will kill free floating ich.

I have witnessed microbiological studies on the use of UV for water purification systems in the pharmaceutical industry.

The study determined UV sterilization was a waste of money. The test results showed no reduction of bioburden in the water system from the use of UV. Thus, UV is no longer used in any of this company's facilities worldwide.

This may or may not relate to whether or not a UV will kill ich. All I can say is they do not "sterilize" by any definition of the term.

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So they never studied ick after all.What a pitty.
 

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amazing guys. thank you. my question was based on that I have a UV that I run in my old freshwater system. it did miracles there leaving the water incredibly clear after fighting for months with algies. just wondering if that'd be the case in a reef too. is a 125g im setting up.

If you are just setting up the tank, the UV will probably slow down your cycle as it's job is to kill bacteria - that you are encouraging to grow - during the same time period. Probably best to leave it off for now.

Water clarity can be maintained through good husbandry practices as well :)
 

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