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pjewett

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Hi All

Looking to upgrade the lighting on my 65gal...it's a 3ft tank but I've always had a 48" Nova Extreme 4X54 T5 only. It looks a little weird spilling over the sides but I've gotten used to it.

I'm having a tough time finding a 36" MH/T5/Lunar that I want to spend the money on but thought the light below might be a good option/deal?

What do you think? Too much light for this tank? I want to start keeping SPS & clams.

Odyssey 48" MH system 2x 250 watt, 20,000k bulbs, it has 4 actinic bulbs of 65 watts, in total 760watts the whole thing. Asking for $200.00
 

Lenny718

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Using two 250w halides would be great for that size tank to do SPS. However the brand of light fixtures you posted about has had there share of problems. There was a few reports of Odyssey fixtures catching fire and there 20k bulbs look more like 10k. Don't get me wrong there are some users who love Odyssey but in the end you get what you pay for and lighting is one thing you don't want to skimp on. Good Luck!
 

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They are pretty crappy fixtures but if you are on a tight budget I guess they will work. But Lenny is right, they had a reputation of starting fires. Also, since I am pretty sure they are not ul listed I don't think your insurance will cover you if anything happens.
 

pjewett

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They are pretty crappy fixtures but if you are on a tight budget I guess they will work. But Lenny is right, they had a reputation of starting fires. Also, since I am pretty sure they are not ul listed I don't think your insurance will cover you if anything happens.


Not that tight of a budget....not buying equipment with that kind of history.

Thanks for the feedback all.
 

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hey

I've use them before bought it from a member here also.. the fixture was great no problem what so ever.. no fires, no smoke lots of coral growth. I would change the bulbs put 14K phoenix.
 

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odyssea fixtures have always been a talkative subject on good or bad. all your going to get are opinions that are good or opinions that are bad. the only 2 bad things about the fixtures in my opinion were the ballasts and the fact that they are made in china or where ever. the quality of the fixture is good, looks like any other typical fixture, but its the little things that make it a little flimsy. like the screws are metal, yet break like plastic. the acrylic cover is more like a plastic cover, and gets stuck alot when you take the cover on and off. the LEDs are decent, but if you change the metal halide bulb and remove the glass covering the halide, you have to take off the metal around the LEDS which usually means you have to disconnect the LEDS, which can be a pain to put back on. But when it comes to performance, since april of this year, the company upgraded their ballasts to much much stronger and safer ballasts. the acrylic cover slits where the cover goes are cut out better and do not get stuck as easy, and the fans are a little stronger. i have owned about 5-6 odyssea fixtures from the power compacts, the T-5s and the halide little pendent, and now currently own and use the 36" single metal halide fixture with 4 T-5s. pretty much the same fixture your looking to get, but only a single MH. i have it on a 46 bow. i love it. for the money, its even better. i did not break the bank for it, and it does its job perfect, BUT of course there came some modifications i had to do to it. first thing was change EVERY bulb. dont even keep those bulbs for back up. they are garbage. their 12K white is the brightest yellow/white i have even seen and is a great bulb if you want a algae infested tank. its like pure sunlight hitting your tank. the actinics (which the fixture your looking to get ONLY come with 4 actinics) are so underpowered you cannot even see the blue. then the MH bulb is a joke. they give you a 15k i believe, not 20K. the 15K MH they have is like a 6.5K MH. pure yellow. it looks like those ugly neon yellow bulb fog lights people put in their older honda civic's. and the LEDS, they are pretty good, not the brightest for moon lights. if your corals are all the way at top, then it will look nice, besides that forget about it. SO, what i went with was this...

T-5 bulbs...
i took all the stock odyssea bulbs out and used them as light sabers because thats all they are good for. i put in a ATI Blue Plus, a Fugi Purple, a Wave Point True Blue, and the new style Coralife 454mn Actinic. that alone did a huge improvement.

LEDS...
for the leds, like i said they are ok, but i wanted more. so you have a few choices. the little ballast for the LEDS it comes with are actually pretty good and stong. if you are good with wires, (which im not, but did it a few times and turned out great) you can take out all the LEDS and wire in 2 1-watt LEDs in each spot. each section on the LEDS fit 2 stock LEDS, and there are 4 spots on the Fixture, so a total of 8 leds come with it. you can fit 2 1-watt leds in each section that has the stock two. so you can end up with a total of 8 1-watt leds which will REALLY lit the tank up. i did this on two or three of the power compact fixtures they have. or you can wire in 3-watt leds, but only fit 1 in each spot, so a total of 4 leds. i have not tried that yet, but a buddy of mine did and he said it turned out great, even better then the 1-watters. OR your other option, which i have on mine right now, and is easier, but a little more money, is just get a Ice cap blue LED strip, or a WINGO led strip. i have an ice cap blue led strip on it. i was like 70 bucks from ocean gallery II. that lit the tank up GREAT at night. the colors of the corals at night were outstanding. and it comes with a mounting kit to screw right into the fixture. if you did two of these, then im sure it would be crazy blue, just one strip was good enough for me.

Metal Halide Bulb...
the metal halide they give you, AKA yellow civic fog bulb, is garbage. i put in a phenoix 14K on it and that 100% completed it. it looked amazing when i put that in. i am more then happy with the results after i put that bulb in.

after all set and done, i put a canopy over it and it looked perfect. better then i was expecting.

So, its up to you. if you get that fixture, dont be scared of the whole fire thing because all the new sytle ballasts they put on the fixtures are ten times safer. the others lit on fire apparently because either the ballast got soaked, or the wires got wet going into the outlet because the customers did not have a U or loop effect. the new ones are great. it does not even get extremely hot like some others do. i am more then happy with the fixture. its up to you though. this is all my opinion. ill post some pictures in a few to show you what i mean...

hope that helped a bit
 

jrobbins

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hey ryan, long time no speak.

really nice review, but after you changed out all the bulbs what did the thing end up costing you? i have a feeling that if he gets the 48" for 200 + maybe $150 for two phoenix or other nice bulbs, plus say 100 for the actinics...you are looking at 450 to 500 bucks. still cheaper than a nice fixture but not that much cheaper. you could also build a really nice retro for that amount.
 

ocholoco

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really nice review, but after you changed out all the bulbs what did the thing end up costing you? i have a feeling that if he gets the 48" for 200 + maybe $150 for two phoenix or other nice bulbs, plus say 100 for the actinics...you are looking at 450 to 500 bucks. still cheaper than a nice fixture but not that much cheaper. you could also build a really nice retro for that amount.



Hey JRobbins I agree with you about going out and having to spend all the extra money on bulbs, But about 90 percent of the time when you buy a brand new fixture it will cost you well over $900 and that would be including 10k Bulbs that look like crap, and when u buy an used fixture 95 percent of the time the ex owner tells you the bulbs are 6 month old when they are 2 years old... you find out after the cyano problem....lol... The Odysea fixture is decent not the best and named the worst by some people that can afford the best.
 

ryangrieder

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hey ryan, long time no speak.

really nice review, but after you changed out all the bulbs what did the thing end up costing you? i have a feeling that if he gets the 48" for 200 + maybe $150 for two phoenix or other nice bulbs, plus say 100 for the actinics...you are looking at 450 to 500 bucks. still cheaper than a nice fixture but not that much cheaper. you could also build a really nice retro for that amount.

hey hows it going jon? hows have you been?

well as you may be correct, the 200 bucks for the fixture will end up turning into 400-450 easily, but the key thing is that it feels alot better spending 200 bucks, then a month or two later spending another 200, rather then spending 400-450 in one shot lol. mentally your like "ok cool, now i dont feel like i just spend a whole pay check on just a fixture" ya know lol. thing is i actually with all the upgrades i did, still did not spend that much. i wanted for the fall swap to buy these items lol. alot cheaper from our vendors because the phenoix bulb was only around 50 bucks, and the t-5s went for around 16 a peice. i was happy. i had the ice cap LED previously when they first came out from ocean gallery II, and it was when they had their red tag sale, so that was around 25% off. real nice owner there. and the leds cost me about 10 bucks off ebay, and 3 bucks for the wires if you did it yourself. so if you play your cards right on the right time of year, you can get all that stuff alot cheaper, rather then just a random day in the random month. although, even if you did just randomly buy them, its still like you said jon, alot cheaper then another well known brand.

Aquaticlife: $879
Aqua Medic:$699 (only 2 t-5's though)
Coralife: $559 (with 2 pc's, not 4 t-5, and only 1 mh)
Elos planet II: $1849
Ice Cap: $749
Aqua Light: $489 (with 2 pc's, not 4 t-5)
Marineland: $639 (only 1 mh)
CEBU: $729
Belize Sun: $559 (one metal halide)
Maristar: $899
Spacelight Ocean Light: $729 ( only 2 t-5s, not 4)
Current USA Orbit: $699
Hamilton: $829

plus you have to figure all those fixtures have better bulbs then odyssea...but are they the bulbs kenvin, watts and spectrum you want? you may have to still change the bulb pattern or ect...

and when all else fails....r..e..t..r..o
 
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