- Location
- Poughkeepsie, NY
Nevermind, I was "google-ing" BSR instead of BRS :google:
Bulk Reef Supply right?
Bulk Reef Supply right?
live rock or eco dry rock
- Thread starter MPISCIOTTI
- Start date
You are correct, Sir
:shhh: I would have answered sooner, but I accidentally googled BRAs, and lost track of time!
- Location
- Poughkeepsie, NY
Happens to all of us, hahaha
- Location
- Poughkeepsie, NY
Ive read somewhere that the ratio for LR to Water is about 1lb per Gallon, is this correct? I recently bought myself a 90g system 
Those ratios really don't work, because the rocks can vary in density, so a small rock could weigh more than a rock twice it's size! The more porous, less dense, lighter rocks usually have more surface area, and are better for tank filtration.Ive read somewhere that the ratio for LR to Water is about 1lb per Gallon, is this correct? I recently bought myself a 90g system
I have plenty of live rock for sale!
- Location
- Poughkeepsie, NY
How much do you sell the rock for? Im on a little but of a limited budget after buying the tank :headache:, but it would be an excuse to stop by and see that monster of a tank you have (ive been following that thread haha)
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
So how do I know how much rock I need? I have a 50 gallon tank so I was thinking about getting 50 lbs worth.
How much rock do you want in tank?...wall of rock,? islands? extra LR in sump? Also depends if you're ordering or hand picking LR. You can get the 40-50 lbs to start with, and hand pick a few 'perfect' shape rocks, that you build your display around! Depending on what corals are going into tank (and growth rates) you don't want to pile rock up too high.
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
dang thats a lot! for my next tank i was trying to minimize the amount of live rock I would use. I like the open swimming space
- Location
- Egg Harbor Twp NJ
I recently added some rock from BRS to my 220. I had plenty of live rock, well established but wanted some more rock. First off, I have found BRS to be an EXCELLENT company to deal with. Shipp fast, quality products, great customer service. Anyway, I added these rocks straight to my display thinking they were dry and needed no curing. They turned bright ugly green in a few days and LOTS of bubbles keep coming from them, even 2 months later they produce these bubbles. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. For some reason these air bubbles appear all over these rocks every day a about an hour after my metal halides kick on. I'm sure they don't hurt anything but they make the tank look ugly. The rocks were nice and white when I got them and I loved their shapes and stuff but now they are an ugly bright green with little bubbles all over them. None of my live rock has any algae on them. Only these BRS rocks. The algae is hard to describe. It can't be scraped off and doesn't spread to other things in tank. It's almost as if the rocks are dyed a bright green. I thought the whole idea of dry rock is it wasn't contaminated and could be added directly to the tank. If this is NOT the case then I wouldn;t have went with it. If both dry rock AND live rock have to cure first then I would have just bought more live rock.
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
hmm so the dry rock had to cure too? did you try seeding it with other live rock?
This is what Arati said on the first page.
"A good tip with eco roc is to make sure you fully cure it before letting it get any light. since the rock is not live, people think they can drop it right in the reef. this can cause the rock to become covered in algea. The idea is that the rock become bio active before light is introduced. then when any dirt drops on the rock it is likely to be used up by the life in the rock. this will lessen the chance for algea to grow and take over."
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A lot of those 'dry' rocks are NOT from the ocean (as we know it)...they are 'mined' rock that was in the ocean when T-Rex roamed the earth! I have seen threads about this rock being very high in phosphates(especially if it's from Florida)
So, YES it should be cured, first! Seeding it with other live rock is not the answer.
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
So how would you cure it? it is stated that no light should be part of it. So when I get my new tank, i should set up the water, LR, and LS, and just let it sit in the tank with no light?
What I did was throw it ina brute garbage can heater powerhead . add a small piece of trusted LR to the mix close and wait 2 months. some people might suggest you do water changes to help lower any p03 levels in the rock .. but i did not..no water changes no skimmer no nada... since its already dry... there should eb no real die off, so no reason to skim.
when I added it to the tank it was covered in coraline in a matter of 2weeks.
and yes you do not use light to cycle a tank. to answer your question more directly.
when I added it to the tank it was covered in coraline in a matter of 2weeks.
and yes you do not use light to cycle a tank. to answer your question more directly.
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
This sounds very similiar to the rock cooking method
ya exactly. cooking rock is usually done when the rock has become covered in algeaor pests. the algea uses light to grow faster then the micro fauna, even though they have the same nutrients to survive on.
In the case of cooking its dirty water or over feeding ect, that lets the algea take over. since the algea grows faster it out competes the other life. I guess people cook for pests also.. but the root cause its the same.
In the case of dry rock. Since there is nothing really alive on it. whatever gets to it first and grows faster gets the edge. take away light and use trusted live rock to seed, it will give the best chance to have the proper result. wich is a micro fauna and bacteria driven system.
Then it just comes down to upkeep. alteast you dont start out with a problem.
the bottom line is that done correctly you can limit the systems possible exposure to undesired life forms, and more importantly keep the real reefs in the ocean.
In the case of cooking its dirty water or over feeding ect, that lets the algea take over. since the algea grows faster it out competes the other life. I guess people cook for pests also.. but the root cause its the same.
In the case of dry rock. Since there is nothing really alive on it. whatever gets to it first and grows faster gets the edge. take away light and use trusted live rock to seed, it will give the best chance to have the proper result. wich is a micro fauna and bacteria driven system.
Then it just comes down to upkeep. alteast you dont start out with a problem.
the bottom line is that done correctly you can limit the systems possible exposure to undesired life forms, and more importantly keep the real reefs in the ocean.
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I bought over $175 or more a while back to get the Free shipping promotion. The rocks are nice but I really like the Fiji ones more (shape wise). But for the price, I thought it was well worth a shot. I filled probably around 75 lbs of rocks in my 29 gal tank and seeded it with some live rocks from my older tank. I stocked it almost 1-1.5 months later. 5 months later, it has all kinds of coraline algae covering it plus worms.....It'll look pretty ugly for the first month or so since it has no colorations to it.
- Location
- Egg Harbor Twp NJ
So I can see NO point in using dry rock if it has to cure for 2 months. Might as well use live rock and cure it or by fully cured live rock, IMO.
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