dipping new fish ?
- Thread starter jerl77
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wrote this a few years ago that came from a conversation about bringing in delicate fish. A.Crysopterus in particular. It is what I use for nearly everything.
http://www.reeflounge.com/showthread.php?t=31185
http://www.reeflounge.com/showthread.php?t=31185
michael Jack
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- Long island
I dip all my fish in vodka but for some reason all my fish seen to die I cant figure it out well good luck
michael Jack
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- Long island
I also like to dip them in egg and bread crums
I havent used it , but the site says " malachite green and fish protective polymers"
Malachite Green is one old product , it works great and always has. I dont know enough about it to say what it does and doesnt kill. alot of whole salers use MG I belive. It definetly is not the good kind of "organic"
the method I use has 3 parts - copper to kill the ich, formaline to kill brook and velvet, and hypo done correctly to kill parasites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite_green#Niche_uses
MG is active against the oomycete Saprolegnia, which infects fish eggs in commercial aquaculture. It is also a very popular treatment against ichthyophthirius in freshwater aquaria.
I would question its effectiveness for brooky and velvet and in salt water in general.
Malachite Green is one old product , it works great and always has. I dont know enough about it to say what it does and doesnt kill. alot of whole salers use MG I belive. It definetly is not the good kind of "organic"
the method I use has 3 parts - copper to kill the ich, formaline to kill brook and velvet, and hypo done correctly to kill parasites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite_green#Niche_uses
MG is active against the oomycete Saprolegnia, which infects fish eggs in commercial aquaculture. It is also a very popular treatment against ichthyophthirius in freshwater aquaria.
I would question its effectiveness for brooky and velvet and in salt water in general.
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- poughquag, ny
5 minute fw temp and ph adjusted, and then half hour in sw with procure and airstone
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- whitestone
Malachite green is a very good product for getting rid of parasites because it is a very strong poison. It use to be used in American fish farms until it was banned in the 90s because of the fear that it caused cancer. These concerns were from when rats who were fed a concentrated amount of this toxin started to develope tumors in their lungs. Interesting enough, liver cancer, which was what researchers were originally concerned with, did not appear at all. Copper, formaline, and a few weeks in hyposalinity seems to work very well for me.
henrystyle
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- East Stroudsburg, PA
Good info and post bro...thanks
Gonna start qt-ing everything....parasites are out of control theses days...especially with all these suppliers raping the sea. You never know what your putting in your tank.
henrystyle
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QT-ing your fish is one thing but how do you rid the ich from an already established tank?
Hypo-salinity the best way?
Just bought some of this..
http://www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htm
Hypo-salinity the best way?
Just bought some of this..
http://www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htm
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- Long Island, New York
In a reef tank the only way that I know of is to catch all of your fish and have a 6-8 week period of a fishless display so that the ich goes thru its life cycles and dies without a host. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
This is exactly correct. to remove ich from an established system it has to lay fallow for , I think is 72 days exactly butIi always reccomend 90.
ps hyposalinity. is used to shock parasites and kill them . a quick drop in salinity from 1.026 to 0.00. I am not sure why the theory of long term hyposalinity came about, but I think its nonsense.
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Long term Hypo is used to kill Ich, as even a fresh water dip or bath will not kill Ich. Ich spots on the surface of fish aren't going to release/die with a fresh water dip or bath, and neither is the ich inside of the fish. Ich can last for quite a long time in fresh water, way longer than a fish can.
OIC. I use copper/ formaline kill the ich on/in the fish. I was always under the impession people kept the sg low in qt tanks was to make it easier for fish to breath.
I am sure you are correct, its just not how I learned things. thanks for the tip.
I am sure you are correct, its just not how I learned things. thanks for the tip.
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I think most people keeping the SG lower to fight off ich or others parasites that the fish may have. Though keeping it lower, say in the 1.016-1.018 range, isn't Hypo, which is usually in the 1.007-1.009 range.
As for using copper/formalin, well both do take time to work, though formalin dips/bathes will burn off some of the ich spores on the body, it does take multiple dips/bathes over days to rid a fish of ich. With copper it's not going to remove the Ich from the fish.
henrystyle
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So a quick freshwater dip aint doing anything for ich. How long can a fish last in 1.009 sg?
henrystyle
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Will 8 weeks of hypo with the fish still in the tank kill ich?
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- Wallington, NJ
I dont think anybody knows the clear answer as every situation is unique. But most recommend 3 months or even longer to be on the safe side.
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