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kylen

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Just an interesting response from my brother, who is working in Dublin, about an article written about my company. I have his permission to post it. He is a complete outsider, never has had fish, has no desire to have fish, and I do not get into detail about my business with him. He has traveled the world extensively, especially third world countries.

"That sounds great - really. The environment's always been a huge concern of mine and something I've given way way too much thought to. The one thing I've concluded is that developing countries cannot be held responsible for their actions - I've seen far too much abject poverty to know that there is absolutely no way that you will ever convince a fisherman from the Philipines to change his practices simply on the arguement of sustainable development. Similarly, you won't convince an Indian that it's wrong to catch a tiger when when someone is willing to pay them the equivalent of three years wages when their family is starving. Change must come from the consumer, the regular Joe aquarium collector. If there's no market for cyanide caught fish, then there's no reason for the fisherman to use it - he's not doing it for fun - he's doing it for the money. And there has to be an alternative which is what you're giving him so that truly is a remarkable feat. Now you need to educate the consumers - plead with their environmental conscious and if that doesn't work shame them. I'm guessing most collectors are somewhat aware of the environment but until they know what MAC certified means you won't get consumers specifically searching out MAC certified stores. I remember an aquatic toxicology class in which the prof began talking about giving up his salt water tank due to environmental concerns - that's your target market - you need to let people like that know that a sustainable option exists - I guess the question then becomes how?
Apathy is a major hurdle in our times."

Just thought I would share.

Kyle
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clarionreef

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Kyle,
With all due respect to your brother...if poor fisherman do not understand what MAC certification means...they are hardly alone.
And besides...since MAC has little idea how to collect fish and train fisherman...they're even.
Poor training and no training perpetuate this anamolie in our trade. Not poverty. That lie , perpetuated by non fisherman, has anchored a culture of failure in this issue and needs to stop being repeated.
Poor people need cheap nets that effectively earn them more, cost less, keep them out of jail, improve their fish and improve their catch totals and delivered product to Manila.
City people imagine drugs to be more effective because ...to them they would be! Commercial fisherman are not tourist divers, pantywaists or prim-madonnas. Their capacity to convert to more effective netting methodologies should not be held hostage to the lack of experience and limitations of talent in NGOs controlling the industry's response to this question!
See you at MACNA!
SINCERELY, STEVE ROBINSON
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kylen

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Steve,

After re-reading my brother's email, there is a bit of confusion over his terminology. I clarified his intended meaning today. He used the term "collector" to represent the hobbyist not the "fishermen" in the Philippines. His reference regarding the "collector's" awareness of MAC was a reference to the hobbyist. His basic thoughts were that the fisherman are not to blame, as so many seem to do, but rather cast that blame on the end consumer who are demanding the cheap cyanide caught fish.
 

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Kyle,
I understand. But waiting for and depending on hobbyists to change and insist on netcaught fish renders concerned Filipinos irrelevant. Filipinos must change for their own benefits and not peg their hopes to the hobbyist masses becoming 'born again.' By the time this would happen, global warming would have set in and rendered the discussion pointless.
Look at it this way.. If the gall bladders of our bears were being poached by Chinese smugglers. would you hope to see a change in the additudes of Chinese gall bladder consumers?
Hell no. Fish and game is out there with infra-red scopes and rifles. The 'demand' of foreign consumers carry little weight with them. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the hunt for poachers and cyanide fisherman goes on in the Philippines and tonite dozens of fisherman are in jail.
The betterment of conditions on coral reefs and nearshore villages cannot be dependant upon us and our poor sense of humanitarian responsibility and environmental conscience. We are not good enough to determine Filipino destiny and every bit as "backward thinking" as we think the fisherman to be.
Kyle. People of conscience often suffer from the illusion that
others have it as well. We have our job to do here and they have theirs to do as well. Filipino cyanide fisherman have to answer to the vast majority of innocents in their villages. To their neighbors, the police, the mayors office, the fishery people, the local reformers etc...and we should help and support them. If we change our own people and stop subsidizing the cyanide trade, great. If we fail, the Philippines must fight on anyway to
save their own homeland.
Steve
 

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