Steve, I understand the circumstances, and of course hindsight is 20-20 whether you agree with me or not... Without a doubt the exposure was not negative, so it will probably only be able to do good for all of us. Thank you for that...
Dizzy, whoa now. Why in the world would I want everyone against the hobby?? Come on now! Any logical thinking person knows there is a right way and a wrong way to do most things. Steve Obviously said netting is the object, the right way. Whats wrong with giving an accurate, heart wrenching (which cyanide naturally is) description of these techniques????? I thought the movie did the opposite. Unless you are totally clueless you know that fish come from the sea, duh. The fish in the movie was net caught without much distress. The movie surely didn't show thousands of fish dying, being poisoned, or sitting in a 4" square cubical covered in ich while in an importers holding facility... Fact is we ARE kidnappers, no point in being in denial about that. The movie didn't make our hooby look nearly as bad as it IS, or as bad as it could have been depicted. And yes it was only 3 minutes, or which 1 at least was spent repeating previous statements. It did point out positive aspects.
Pretend your grandma watching the news. This is the number one story on this newcast, must be interested. She thinks to herself cyanide, that sounds bad, hmmm must just make the fish a little easier to catch!?!? Now it crosses her mind, are these people blaming disney? Asking for help? Why should they help?
Sure some of those questions were answered, but people retain about 10% or less of what they hear. Most people don't have a profound interest in the subject, like us.
My point is tell the old lady they poison the water, knock the fish out, scoop them up, send them to the us while hundreds of them die because of the cyanide, then the ones that made it will sit in our tank for a few weeks and slowly have the cyanide re poison them, this time to death. You think that lady will care about that? Honestly I put my money on her caring about the later.
Now you think Disney will care more about 1000 letters from educated reefers, mostly male in the late 20's through lets say 50 or so, OR 10000 letters from uneducated moms, grandparents, some kids, a nice round news viewing segment of the population along with the eduacated reefers? Again I'm gonna put my money on the later. Disney honestly probably doesn't care much about us. Kids are Disneys, especially pixars target audience. Females (moms, grandmas) are the decision makers conerning many childrens activities, including movies, not the average reefer. If their target audience gets mad, they might take action, we are already mad, now exploiting them because of their movie, honestly they have no incentive to help reform our industry. If we want Disney to do something we need to put this in the hearts of their audience, if we want to go about it a different way, then we can continue getting almost nowhere doing things the way we have been.
Sorry if you don't like my opinion, you don't have too.
Dizzy, whoa now. Why in the world would I want everyone against the hobby?? Come on now! Any logical thinking person knows there is a right way and a wrong way to do most things. Steve Obviously said netting is the object, the right way. Whats wrong with giving an accurate, heart wrenching (which cyanide naturally is) description of these techniques????? I thought the movie did the opposite. Unless you are totally clueless you know that fish come from the sea, duh. The fish in the movie was net caught without much distress. The movie surely didn't show thousands of fish dying, being poisoned, or sitting in a 4" square cubical covered in ich while in an importers holding facility... Fact is we ARE kidnappers, no point in being in denial about that. The movie didn't make our hooby look nearly as bad as it IS, or as bad as it could have been depicted. And yes it was only 3 minutes, or which 1 at least was spent repeating previous statements. It did point out positive aspects.
Pretend your grandma watching the news. This is the number one story on this newcast, must be interested. She thinks to herself cyanide, that sounds bad, hmmm must just make the fish a little easier to catch!?!? Now it crosses her mind, are these people blaming disney? Asking for help? Why should they help?
Sure some of those questions were answered, but people retain about 10% or less of what they hear. Most people don't have a profound interest in the subject, like us.
My point is tell the old lady they poison the water, knock the fish out, scoop them up, send them to the us while hundreds of them die because of the cyanide, then the ones that made it will sit in our tank for a few weeks and slowly have the cyanide re poison them, this time to death. You think that lady will care about that? Honestly I put my money on her caring about the later.
Now you think Disney will care more about 1000 letters from educated reefers, mostly male in the late 20's through lets say 50 or so, OR 10000 letters from uneducated moms, grandparents, some kids, a nice round news viewing segment of the population along with the eduacated reefers? Again I'm gonna put my money on the later. Disney honestly probably doesn't care much about us. Kids are Disneys, especially pixars target audience. Females (moms, grandmas) are the decision makers conerning many childrens activities, including movies, not the average reefer. If their target audience gets mad, they might take action, we are already mad, now exploiting them because of their movie, honestly they have no incentive to help reform our industry. If we want Disney to do something we need to put this in the hearts of their audience, if we want to go about it a different way, then we can continue getting almost nowhere doing things the way we have been.
Sorry if you don't like my opinion, you don't have too.
