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John_Brandt

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Fisher's was an importer-wholesaler in Chicago. I don't know how long they stayed in business but they were gone by 1979.

This catalog is from 1968, and is from my collection.
 

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Hey, some prices have barely changed since 68. Sea turltes for $5, wow.
 

JennM

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Gresham, you snatched the words right out of my fingers...

8O 8O 8O SEA TURTLES??? 8O 8O 8O
 

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Actually, since 99.8 percent of all seaturtles die in their first week out at sea....{eaten}........would it not better serve the interests of seaturtles if humans raised them past this most vulnerable time ........of say the first few months? I say a program of hobbyists raising seaturtles past the tiny eidible snackes they are right after birth........ to a larger size {able to escape being eaten } would single handedly increase the number of turtles in the wild by ten fold within five years..........Prove me wrong....
 
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hmmm...

taking into account inflation, and the devalued dollar-some fish are actually cheaper today, than when i got into the s/w hobby circa '77-'78

flame angels were retailing in the south joisey area for around $70 back then-we sell 'em today for around $20-30 less
 

JennM

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Kalkbreath":1s9dd2uf said:
Actually, since 99.8 percent of all seaturtles die in their first week out at sea....{eaten}........would it not better serve the interests of seaturtles if humans raised them past this most vulnerable time ........of say the first few months? I say a program of hobbyists raising seaturtles past the tiny eidible snackes they are right after birth........ to a larger size {able to escape being eaten } would single handedly increase the number of turtles in the wild by ten fold within five years..........Prove me wrong....

I'm not a scientist, and I don't play one on TV, but it's my understanding that turtles must return to where they were hatched, to breed. If turtles will not breed unless they return to the very beach where they hatched, I guess human interruption wouldn't solve anything, would it? Removing eggs or hatchlings and interrupting the process, removing them to a different location and returning them sometime later would most likely irreversibly interfere with the turtles' ability to orient.

Just my thoughts, based on PBS documentaries -- but I guess if it made sense to do as Kalk suggests, it would have been done already.

Jenn
 

Kalkbreath

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.I think having a full grown sea turtle years later ....Knocking on my front door asking me if we can "do it"......... next to the tank {it lived in as a baby} ........would be kinda neat :wink:{but thats just me} ....... I wonder how anyone could be so sure that seaturtles only do it on their "birth beach" one would have to release several turtles ........wait fourty years then find the same turtles again and ask them if they have ever" done it" ...................................................and if not .............."why"?
 

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Kalkbreath":2o465qvn said:
Actually, since 99.8 percent of all seaturtles die in their first week out at sea....{eaten}........would it not better serve the interests of seaturtles if humans raised them past this most vulnerable time ........of say the first few months? I say a program of hobbyists raising seaturtles past the tiny eidible snackes they are right after birth........ to a larger size {able to escape being eaten } would single handedly increase the number of turtles in the wild by ten fold within five years..........Prove me wrong....

Actually, we were in Mexica this summer where I read about a project they have there doing just that. The eggs are collected from the beach (or maybe it's the new hatchlings, I can't remember for sure) and raised in an aquaculture facility. Then they are taken back to the beach later and released (same beach?). They even have tourists who arrive just for the big release and get to help. Hundreds of turtles are released en masse just as thy would be naturally and migrate to the water. The mass release also decreases the immediate predatory losses. Not exactly hobbiests, but similar idea.
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