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I've had stuff come in as hot as 1.030 from some caribbean sources and whenn I was in retail, as low as 1.011 from a few LA wholesalers. I try to keep our inverts at 1.024 and fish at 1.021, what do you use?
Sorry, I should have clarified my question a little better:
What SG do you keep your retail store or wholesale facility at?
No offense Naesco, I looking for what sellers of livestock keep their respected systems at. Most hobbyist strive for water as close to NSW as possiable. In this business, thats not always such a good idea for many reasons.
What SG do you keep your retail store or wholesale facility at?
No offense Naesco, I looking for what sellers of livestock keep their respected systems at. Most hobbyist strive for water as close to NSW as possiable. In this business, thats not always such a good idea for many reasons.
the last place i worked at kept the fish system around .021, as well as the invert systems.I had the invert/reef system upped to .025-the improvement in the system was fairly obvious. 
the reason i was given by the owner, as to why he kept the salinity so low, was that it saved money on salt. :roll: :?
i guess he never took into account the cost of his lost livestock/sales as a result :roll: :lol:
many suppliers/wholesalers shp their fish out at lower salinities-which is the only semi-reasonable argument i can think of to keep a f/o system at the lower sg range
the reason i was given by the owner, as to why he kept the salinity so low, was that it saved money on salt. :roll: :?
i guess he never took into account the cost of his lost livestock/sales as a result :roll: :lol:
many suppliers/wholesalers shp their fish out at lower salinities-which is the only semi-reasonable argument i can think of to keep a f/o system at the lower sg range
From over the weekend, Two stores, different three systems...
Store one, system one:
1.020
Store one, system two
1.019
Store two, system one (Including all inverts!!!)
1.020
Store one also ran copper in their fish systems- am very glad he told me.
Regards.
Mike Kirda
Store one, system one:
1.020
Store one, system two
1.019
Store two, system one (Including all inverts!!!)
1.020
Store one also ran copper in their fish systems- am very glad he told me.
Regards.
Mike Kirda
mkirda":1hk2t1k1 said:
The first commandment of aquarists:
Thou shalt not put fish store water in your tank water.
That's one of many reasons why.. always discard fish store water.
The only exception is for sponges/gorgonians that cannot be exposed to air, and there had better not be meds in those tanks !
Glenn, what do you do if there's a parsasite breakout?
Jenn
I used to work for a non-believer in copper. Man, oh man, you shoulda seen how many fish died from such an easy to cure parasite. The facility always smelled like garlic (not a bad thing mind you) and dead fish (a bad thing). He wasn't having any of the evil copper in his systems, even if fish died, damnit!!!
Oh, and for Melafix and the other ogani cure type products, we had many 1/2 empty commercial size bottles of those laying around as well. All's they did was take up real estate within our facility, they didn't help one bit. Yah, he even had oversized UV and ozone to boot!! I'm a firm believer in treating with copper. Treating with copper mind you, not always running it.
I've gotta admit our specific gravity runs up and down quite a bit in the tanks we sell fish out of. All of a sudden (when we are very busy) a sump is running low and pumping air into the tanks and we hurry and dump in fresh. When we adjust it back we shoot for 1.023, usually just using a swing arm hydrometer. I'm curious too as to how Glenn gets away without copper or hypo. Copper works, but seems to cause cloudy eyes in angels. I suspect more fish die from parasites or the copper treatment, than any other reason.
Mitch
Mitch
Actually (knock on wood) it hasn't ever come up. We feed pretty heavily, have a decent sized UV, and use fresh water dips. Each of our tanks can be isoloated and treated with copper if need be, and we do on occasion, only treated the entire system once when we first opened. The thing that works the best for us is freshwater dips followed by paraguard. We run our african cichlid system at a pH of 8.3 and the two systems are always the exact same temp, so it's easy to just dump em in with the yellow labs for a few minutes. Most of them can toloerate it up to 20-30 minutes with no stress. And we don't overstock our tanks, usually no more than two fish per tank, (except for things like firefish and chromis). It's not that I don't believe in copper, we just haven't needed to use it much. We keep the substrate at the bottom pretty thin too, and gravel wash and replace pretty often.
Glenn,
I'll bet you did. Do you freshwater dip all your fish? If so do you do it when they come in before they are let out? Seems like it would add stress to me. Doing it later probably wouldn't be near as effective in keeping it out. If you have a supplier that totally eliminates it you are pretty lucky.
Mitch
I'll bet you did. Do you freshwater dip all your fish? If so do you do it when they come in before they are let out? Seems like it would add stress to me. Doing it later probably wouldn't be near as effective in keeping it out. If you have a supplier that totally eliminates it you are pretty lucky.
Mitch
bobimport":1leil2c4 said:
i'm curious
are you saying that artificially low salinity puts a marine fish under LESS stress?
i'm also wondering why you keep rock at 1.030?
and lastly, but not least, why did you enter 'wholesaler 20,000 gal' in the subject title field? :lol:
Gresham, I'm with you... "TREAT" with copper, don't necessarily run it all the time. We like Cupramine - easy to dose and monitor the level, and it seems to knock out most nasties PDQ.
Cloudy eyes on angels usually equals flukes - freshwater dip and they will come off. For whatever reason, copper doesn't knock out flukes. We find FW dip the most effective for this, and dip for 5-7 minutes, individuals as needed.
Jenn
Cloudy eyes on angels usually equals flukes - freshwater dip and they will come off. For whatever reason, copper doesn't knock out flukes. We find FW dip the most effective for this, and dip for 5-7 minutes, individuals as needed.
Jenn
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