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Do people who make suffer 1000's of animals(fish) go to hell?



Im starting in the buisiness, this thought has been in my head a couple of times. :cry:
 

coralfarmin

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Genesis 1 20
And god said"let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures & let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens"
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So god created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm according to their kinds.................................................................
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And god blessed them.And god said to them(man)"be fruitful & multiply & fill the earth & subdue it & have DOMINION over the fish of the sea................. :D
 

coralfarmin

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dont you think that animals suffer when you kill them and eat them?
not to mention jesus's miracle FILLING fish nets.Then making men fishers of men.
 

coralfarmin

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hows it not
I like my fish broiled,fryied,sauted.
Heck in the old testament look at all the animal sacrifices in the name of god
You think a fish that dies from cynide suffers any more than one thrown on a dock or boat deck to choke
 

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Let's say we eat 2 fish per week, by the time we reach 80, that's 80 x 52weeks x 2 fish = 8320. There are also shrimps, shell fish, ants, farm animals........ the list goes on and on.

If I have to go to hell, so be it. At least I won't die emptied stomach.
 

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sure the enduser suffers from cynide caught fish as well as the fish..but eternal damnation to people who are already in horrible poverty(hell) to you and my standards probably, with this the only income source..not in my opinion.
I dont want cynide caught fish because of the obvious disadvantages to the enduser,& who wants sick fish.
Are we going to hell for airconditioning?
heck we didnt even have power to run our tanks & water chillers etc etc.. till just recently if you consider its been 2005 years since the ultimate sacrifice.
are we going to hell for being gluttons of the trade?
some of these people your fishing for judgement on probably dont even have power and probably never have
 

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if you were phillipino and had say 4 kids and you had a choice between a slurp gun(not likely there)some nets or a bottle of cynide.
The bottle of cynide being the one that can feed all 4 kids the most.(and they are still hungry)
what would you chose?
they may not even be hungry there for all I know since they have the ocean to have Dominion over, but they are in poverty none the less and need money for medicines housing etc etc
 

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Slurp guns ...are for tourists. :lol:
Nets ...are for fisherman. :!:
Cyanide... is for exporters to sell to poor fisherman :evil:

Fisherman need cheaper, more efficient nets to feed their kids...like in every other nation of the world cept Indo and a bit of Viet Nam
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I agree
but I have collected fish in the keys when I was a kid and I dont see how you can catch a tang with a net in a grass flat(i am sure they are skilled more than I was though)
and a queen angle is almost impossible to get out the rocks without a slurp gun
I can see why these poor people may be lured to cynide, though I wish that was not the case
 

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Yes waterplanet there is a hell and those who mistreat God s creatures go there.

Eating fish is ok though unless of course they are tangs.
 

coralfarmin

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Jesus used nets :D
A diver with no tanks and googles can catch as many per day with hand nets as one with cynide????!!!!
Come on QM I know they can all be caught with nets but lets get real here.
I am totaly aginst cynide use,I just see how they can be lured to it.
Nets would be cheaper anyway.They have to keep buying the cynide over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...............................................................................
 

coralfarmin

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so nesco...do you kill mice,bugs,spiders etc in your house just cause they are in your house.......they all serve a purpose as well

We all probably have alot more to worry about, that we do to ourselfs(even just thoughts) that will send us to hell faster than fish
 

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comon QM?
huh :? ....a diver w/ tanks and google can..........?

Filipinos use hookah compressors and nets
they also use hookah compressors and cyanide

and breath holding and nets
and breath holding and cyanide

trained well and supplied w/ nets, they don't look back
trained improperly and not supplied with proper nets, they often backslide against their own interests as cyanide is 30X MORE EXPENSIVE THEN NETS!

Simple really and understood and accepted all over the world
But the Philippines and Indonesia... both suffered from 2 decades of dictatorships where bad fishery methods were tolerated and became habit.

Habit....like smoking and drinking.
Not needed to live well but still there.

They should be off these habits by now....but the lack of viable perceived alternatives have kept many of them there.

Steve
 

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