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Down to Earth No. 57, May 2003

Controversy over fatal shootings in Komodo National Park
What lessons will be learned from the shooting dead of two local fishermen at the Komodo National Park, managed by US-based conservation organisation, The Nature Conservancy
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On the night of November 9th 2002, security personnel at the Komodo National Park in East Nusa Tenggara province, approached a small group of boats suspected of illegal fishing activities. What exactly happened next is disputed but, by the early hours of November 10th, two fishermen had been shot dead.

According to the Komodo National Park Bureau's version of events, the men were suspected of hunting illegally on Komodo island. The Park's 3-person inventory team reported how they saw suspicious activity on land and heard boats coming to shore in the darkness. On November 8th, the team fired warning shots at a boat which had landed at Loh Wia, on the western part of Komodo Island.

After co-ordinating with the park authorities, members of the local police station and the local military, a team was sent to watch suspect areas. At around 9 pm on November 9th, a boat was heard coming into Loh Wia waters, followed by about four more half an hour later. One of the boats came to the shore and landed. There was movement back and forth from boat to shore. The boat then moved off and the team requested assistance from the park's floating ranger stations. A speedboat was sent and caught up with the nearest boat and fired six warning shots. These were ignored, according to the report.

In the pursuit and apprehending of the nearest two boats, two men were shot dead. Fourteen other men then surrendered, while the three other boats escaped into the darkness. Two compressors (used for diving) were found on the boats along with 2 high pressure hoses and several lobsters.PIAR / Kontras investigation

However, an investigation conducted by the Indonesian NGO PIAR, and the human rights organisation, Kontras, presents a different version of events.

The fishermen involved said they had not resisted the officials, nor carried any explosives on their boats (these are used in illegal fishing).

According to a witness, two boats, the Halifah I and II, were going to Kelapa Islands to catch lobster, fish and squid. They had come from Sape, Bima, to the west of Komodo Island.

At around 1am on November 10th, a series of shots was fired towards the Halifah I. There were no warning shots, according to the NGO report.

Two fishermen, Jaenul Arifin (25) and Mohamad Yamin (18) were shot dead on the spot. The report names one soldier and one navy personnel as those who fired the shots.

After this, the Halifah II, which was not far from the first boat, was also apprehended. Nine fishermen were ordered into the speedboat and brought to one of the floating ranger stations.

All the crew of Halifah I and II were ordered to strip naked. They were beaten, threatened and terrorised. At around 2 o'clock in the morning they were taken to Sooid, on the western side of Komodo island where they were again beaten and kicked until dawn. The bodies of the two fishermen were left lying on the boat.

The fishermen were held for 3 days, then released because there was no proof that they were carrying explosives.

The PIAR/Kontras report ends by saying that terror, intimidation and even shootings have become part of the fishermen's lives and that this has got worse since the central government invited TNC to co-manage the park.

According to fisherfolk, their boats are ransacked by the park's patrols almost everytime they go out to sea. Guards board the boats without permission and harangue and shout at the crew. Some of the crew have had weapons pointed at their face and ordered to go back. According to the fishermen, they don't carry the explosives the security guards are looking for. As they use fish traps and dive for lobsters, the only equipment they have on board is a compressor, flashlight and high pressure hose.

Since the November shooting incident, intimidation against fishermen has increased. Even traders wanting to enter Labuan Bajo harbour to sell salt are ordered to go home, without any clear explanation. With insufficient supplies of salt, the fishermen of Labuan Bajo and nearby coastal villages, can't salt their fish (salt is used as a preservative). Sape fishermen are banned from entering Komodo waters.

Such shootings have been carried out for decades. The NGO report lists nine shooting incidents since 1980. They include a total of eight deaths and 3 disappearances (in 1998). The families of the dead have not until now brought any legal action because they say they do not have the money.
Demands

Both versions of events were published by PIAR at a press conference in Kupang, West Timor in January 2003. PIAR urged the local government to resolve the various problems that have arisen due to the existence of the Komodo National Park, the emergence of conflict between communities and repeated violence towards local people.

PIAR also:
urged the Bima police to arrest those responsible for the shooting and violence which resulted in the two fishermen's deaths in November 2002 and thoroughly investigate the incident which falls within its jurisdiction;
urged TNC, as the manager of the Komodo National Park, to stop all forms of violence and intimidation against people whose livelihoods depend on the area;
urged the forestry minister immediately to review its policies regarding the Komodo National Park because it is causing hardship to local people and traditional fisherfolk whose livelihoods and futures depend on this area;
appealed to all people in East and West Nusa Tenggara provinces who live in and depend on the area around the national park for their livelihoods not to be provoked by people who want to pitch communities against each other.

"ok...
enough. Buts theres more. This kind of thing gets me in trouble all the time....but seriously, such a news story should not exist.... :oops:
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In re-reading the post it looks like these guys were dynamite blasting the reefs.

It also appears that they were doing this in a national park conservation area.
 

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In the pursuit and apprehending of the nearest two boats, two men were shot dead. Fourteen other men then surrendered, while the three other boats escaped into the darkness. Two compressors (used for diving) were found on the boats along with 2 high pressure hoses and several lobsters.PIAR / Kontras investigation

However, an investigation conducted by the Indonesian NGO PIAR, and the human rights organisation, Kontras, presents a different version of events.

The fishermen involved said they had not resisted the officials, nor carried any explosives on their boats (these are used in illegal fishing
Wayne,
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There are two sides to the story.
Apparently there were numerous warning shots to no avail. We don't know whether or not they were using cyanide.

I think you will agree with me when I say that police, conservationists and local fisherman take their lives in there hands if they challenge illegal fishers.
These criminals ,who refuse to put the same amount of effort in as the underpaid overworked honest fisherman, frequently carry weapons to intimidate those who might consider a challenge.

I regret that these needless deaths have happened. These losers (don't honour them by calling them fisherman) had mothers, fathers, wives and children.

The headline to the news story you posted is a typical anti-American response. Certainly, the US National Conservatory does not support the shooting of those criminals who choose to sneak into a National Park and rape the worldwide efforts of many who want to assist in the repair of the damage done by industry to the reefs in the Philippines.
 

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Post edited for violating the User Agreement. Futher violations may result in the revocation of posting privileges - Righty[/color
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Richard,
That was a joke about blurry vision...pure and simple. :cry:
Harmless really. If it crossed over some line...I sure didn't think it did...IMHO
and if it did, I'm sorry.

Whats not a joke though is Waynes notion ...the scary notion that they had it coming . That the poor fisherman had it coming.
Wayne, I'm shocked at the idea of summary execution on sight for illegal fishers that you seem to favor.
If Westerners are seen to think this way it is the worst possible image for working with fishing communities.
Thousands were /are cyanide and dynamite fishers.
Is our failure to train them...to shoot them?
It is a shameful episode in the promotion of MPAs and they who pay for the rangers and for the bullets...can stop it.
The killers should be fired, arrested and hopefully in jail now.

Steve
 

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Steve I dont see them the way you do.
I dont think for one moment that they are 'poor fisherman' as you suggest. This is not a father and son fishing with their humble boat
These are the facts Steve'
Five boats were seen entering a National Park Reserve at night time
Fourteen poachers were apprehended and three boats with an undetermined number of poachers (likely another 21) escaped arrest.
They were well equipped with two compressors.

Steve this was obviously an organized, well equipped criminal gang of poachers.
I dont support for one minute summary execution of anyone.
I fully support due process for the worst of crimes.
I dont support the anti-American press that condemns an organization that supports the betterment of the reefs in their country and blames it for the wrongs of a few of it security contractors.

You did not comment on my assertion that many cyanide and dynamite fishers carry guns to intimidate the police, conservationists and the local fishers who legally catch fish for meager pay.
 

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Down to Earth No. 57, May 2003

Controversy over fatal shootings in Komodo National Park
What lessons will be learned from the shooting dead of two local fishermen at the Komodo National Park, managed by US-based conservation organisation, The Nature Conservancy?

Righty,
Top of the page on the top of the first posting.
NO MORE BLURRY VISION JOKES HERE.
 

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WAYNE,
Since you seem depend on me for the information stream to carry on with the fringe movement thats against cyanide to the exclusion of all else....especially human beings...follow me here now. 8)
The village fishers were from the village of Sapi just outside the park boundaries.
They have felt excluded, not consulted, marginalized and kept away from their traditional fishing grounds.
They were among the villagers that the CCIF/MAMTI/MAC consortium wanted to train a few years ago to become aquarium fishers.
The vertically integrated from sea to retailer chain of custody envisioned by the egghead roundtable in the group counted on Komodo to deliver the majestic angels and blue tangs to their chosen ones...ie certified and playing ball w/ them.
Then they failed to train the villagers as they had no clue how and the project faded.
Livlihood generation was still spun in glowing papers and eco-development speak about win-win multi-stakeholder covenants etc. etc.
The left over fishers became at odds w/ the park and failed to recognize its supremacy over their homeland....and the inevitable friction spun out of control.
The chance was there to weave the fisherfolk into park supported livlihood and not be neglected.
The failures to work with the locals and train them is our failure as urban, desk bound, eco-egg heads manipulating the lives of others far away.
If you take away or deny their traditional livlihood...you have to provide alternatives to their satisfaction not just to funders satisfaction. You have to put something back.
And the question is...if you fail in your mission to convert and handle poor fisherman, what do you do?
Can't train em...shoot em? eh?
Steve
 

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cortez marine":1ze3t077 said:
Down to Earth No. 57, May 2003

Controversy over fatal shootings in Komodo National Park
What lessons will be learned from the shooting dead of two local fishermen at the Komodo National Park, managed by US-based conservation organisation, The Nature Conservancy?

Righty,
Top of the page on the top of the first posting.
NO MORE BLURRY VISION JOKES HERE.

It begs the question. Why did you post a three year old story?
 

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Wayne,
Why, did you hear of it already?
Is the killing of fishers by TNC funded rangers yesterdays news and less relevant now?
The truth is, the glowing self reports we hear from the big American NGOs don't carry news such as this...and as such, the news may be difficult to come by and late in getting out. They are ashamed of losing village support, especially after claiming to have won them over.
But get out it finally did.
Steve
 

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Fisherfolk Oppose Park Management and The Nature Conservancy

Jakarta - Fisherfolk from Komodo and Sape subdistricts, Manggarai regency, East Nusa Tenggara, held a direct action in front of the Komodo National Park Office (BTNK) and the West Manggarai Regent on October 20, 2003. The action was a follow up to a meeting to discuss recent problems experienced by fisherfolk living in and around the Komodo National Park, as was explained by a fax sent to WALHI's national office on the same day.

Dozens of fisherfolk involved in the protest came from the villages within the said subdistricts. They are the villages of Komodo, Pasir Panjang, Pasir Putih, Macang Tanggar, Labuan Bajo, Warloka and Sape. They protested against actions taken by the national park office and The Nature Conservancy (TNC) which they feel have severely disadvantaged them. The areas designated by TNC and the park management as no-go zones have been the best catchment areas for local fisherfolk for many many years. The designation of the no-go zones have taken away community access from their sources of livelihood.

After several speeches, the protestors handed in a petition in which they demand the release of 9 members of their community arrested on April 25, 2003. The also rejected all forms of collaboration that disregard the rights of the fisher communities, as well as demanding TNC to leave West Manggarai. The protestors also delivered the same petition to the office of the West Manggarai Regent later in the day.

In collaboration with the Komodo National Park Office, TNC has promoted a marine protection program called Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) which involve designating no-go zones in the surrounding waters, thereby cutting offfisher community access to them. This also entails the formation of a joint patrol team comprising the park staff and members of the Air and Marine Police aimed to ensure law enforcement over the zones. As a result, 2 fisherfolk are reported to have been shot and killed in November 2002. Another death by shooting was recorded in February 26, 2003, and dozens of community members have reported suffering abuse at the hands of the patrol team. All this was done under the argument that the victims have "trespassed" into the no-go zones.

In recent developments, The Nature Conservancy have expanded its efforts by submitting a proposal for "collaborative management" of the park for eco-tourism under PT. Putri Naga Komodo, a joint venture between The Nature Conservancy and PT Jaythasha Putrindo Utama. Plans proposed included an application for concession rights from 25 to 30 years.

After receiving complaints from community representatives and local groups from West Nusa Tenggara and East Nusa Tenggara in March 2003, the Advocacy Team for Komodo Community was established with members including WALHI-FoE Indonesia, Indonesian Legal Aid Association (PBHI), Organization for Involuntary Disappearances and Victims of Violence (Kontras), the Institute for Policy Research and Advocacy (ELSAM), The Indonesian NGO Network for Forest Conservation (SKEPHI), as well as Komodo Watch. The team will provide support for the advocacy efforts of the Komodo community, including providing support during the legal process in relation to the shootings as well as providing general support for the community's efforts to defend community-based sustainable management of livelihood resources.

The Komodo National Park was designated in 1980 by the Indonesian Government for the protection of the rare giant lizards called Komodo Dragons (Varanus Komodoensis). In addition to the Komodo Dragons, TNC recorded 102 floral and 185 animal species, as well as some of the best coral reefs and fish diversity in Indonesia. With its 56,274 hectares of land and 113,060 hectares of ocean, the Park was promoted by UNESCO in 1991 for potential World Heritage listing.
Since ancestral times, the surrounding waters have provided livelihoods and sustenance for around 25,000 fisherfolk from communities living in the surrounding Islands. [st] [imas nurhayati] [pan]



For more information, please contact:

Ahmad Farid
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Komodo National Park: Conservation for Whom?
Komodo National Park lies between Sumbawa and Flores Island in Nusa Tenggara. The 132 572 hectare site was designated a World Heritage Site and a Biosphere Reserve in 1986.
In 1995, the government made an agreement with the American environment group, The Nature Conservancy (TNC), to support Komodo management. Since TNC’s arrival, the Park has become the site of numerous conflicts between communities and Park management.
The group has been accused of trying to ‘privatize’ and ‘commodify’ Komodo National Park, through ecotourism and other income generating projects. This has occurred at the expense of the local community, which has been shut out of Park management decision-making.
TNC is perceived as seeing communities as the main threat to their conservation program. They are seen as favouring the private sector as a partner in expanding their conservation program over local people. While some local communities support the program, there has been strong opposition from other local people, as well as local environment groups, who say they were not consulted about the plan, and that it will not benefit all of the local people.
The designation of the Marine Protected Area Program has substantially affected the livelihoods and income of around 20 000 people from the local fishing communities. The Nature Conservancy and Park authorities consistently describe community development programs as a success in their reports to the government and international donors. In reality, most of these programs have failed.
In order to limit people’s access to the park, management have formed joint ranger teams. The teams consist of park rangers, navy, police and fisher services, which work together on routine patrols. However, these patrols have operated in an extremely violent fashion, beating and shooting fisher folk they encounter.
Since the Komodo National Park was established, ten people have been killed and three others remain missing. There have been widespread claims of beatings and torture carried out by the joint patrol teams, and several fishermen and their families have been exiled from the National Park zone. At least 40 fishermen were tortured and arrested. Every suspect was denied access to legal rights and sentenced to imprisonment between one and two years by the civil court.

The above quote is taken from the Conservation Thread. I am moving it here so that it is placed where it can be part of the thread on Komodo. It should be noted that there were more than two fishermen killed.

I am trying to obtain more up-to-date information about recent events, particularly when and where the other fishers were killed.

Peter Rubec
 
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Don't they shoot poachers on sight in African wildlife refuges?
 

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Posting three year old controversy = pot stirring IMO

Things been slow around your parts :wink: :?:
 

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The current relationships with the villages surrounding the park continue to be poor..
After killing some of their fisherman, how would you imagine them to be?
You wanna tell m not to drege up something that is three years old?
The graves are still there to remind the people every day.

Futhermore they cannot understand how an Indonesian National Park that is supposed to be for the benefit of the nation, can be given as an exclusive license to a foreign group, rather than placed under local control.

The way to save coral reefs in spite of their neighbors is not to create armed camps....like "Fort Apache". If it is then all is lost as you cannot militarize reef protection all over the world. Some spots such as Komodo perhaps....but with 25,000 villagers surrounding it, incidents are predictable that can spin out of control.
You have to involve locals and create local benefit and power sharing more then w/ the tokenism seen thus far.
Its the only way to save anything when you're not looking or pointing a gun.
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naesco":3pjngqa8 said:
cortez marine":3pjngqa8 said:
Down to Earth No. 57, May 2003

Controversy over fatal shootings in Komodo National Park
What lessons will be learned from the shooting dead of two local fishermen at the Komodo National Park, managed by US-based conservation organisation, The Nature Conservancy?

Righty,
Top of the page on the top of the first posting.
NO MORE BLURRY VISION JOKES HERE.

It begs the question. Why did you post a three year old story?

When did Christ walk on water?

If you believe in anything, as Steve does in a working fishing community, a historic event is timeless.
 

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I for one am glad to have learned about this incident even though it is 3 years old. THank you for posting it.

I also agree that so often "well-meaning" ngo's alienate themselves or never gain the respect of the locals they work with. I am appalled at the disrespectful treatment by some of fishers and their communities I have observed while working here in Phils.
 

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Steve, thank you for posting this. Komodo is one place i have never dove in Indonesia all though i was close several times. This infuriates me if it is reported accurately. When are these bean counters going to respect and involve the people who belong to the land? Capital punishment without a trial is absurd and not acceptable anywhere. When people like Naesco come on here and say the things that he has, i really wonder where the mods are at? If these clever people skills where applied here in our own country, you would having everyone flipping out, including our neighbors to the north.Naesco, you really think its okay to execute someone on sight without a trial or evidence? this is caller murder in my opinion and if i was a local, i would lead the way to chase these guys out of town! with force, if required. Once again, shame on you Naesco!

Sincerely
Eric

PS. for petes sake, we even gave Zacchari Moussaui a trial here in our country, and he was suspected to be affiliated with 911 and is not a citizen!
 

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