On Nov 8 The FWC advisory board will meet this board is made up of collectors mostly from the keys. Note how they go after live rock from Haiti. See how they defend the use of Quin. The section about live rock shows how clueless they are on Haiti rock. We never imported it as cultured always wild harvested. They also purposed sending a fact finding mission to Haiti about Ricordea to prove that orange ricordea does not come from there. Like they can go to Haiti and dive for a week and say "well we did not see any so it must not be here". How dumb can you be. Note the high amount of self interest in every regulation. Look at the condy section. They all talk about how they are disappearing from the keys.And their answer is to only collect 300 a day what a crock. Close it down for a year.
Florida Wildlife Commission meeting in the Keys
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Bob, There do appear to be a number of measures proposed by the Marine Life Species Work Group that reach far beyond Florida. I don't buy the argument that imported live rock could lead to the spread of diseases escaping to damage Florida coral reefs. However, I am of the opinion that the use of quinaldine for collecting should be banned. If Americans don't use nets why should other countries be expected to do so? Some of the proposed regulations discussed by the committee (composed of both FWC managers and collectors) if implemented may lead to bans on the importation of live rock and other organisms.
Since the minutes posted with the URL are two years old, I am interested to hear what transpired at the recent Work Group meeting on November 8, 2007.
Since the minutes posted with the URL are two years old, I am interested to hear what transpired at the recent Work Group meeting on November 8, 2007.
Strip bare of Ricordea? I just dove with a collector earlier this year in the keys. There were Ricordea everywhere. I would have to argue that if anything is going to be stripped, it won't be Ricordea. While I may have only dove one particular spot for collecting Ricordea, this was likely one of the most heavily collected spots in the keys due to its very convenient location. Also, I would have to argue that Ricordea collection is regulated by the method they can be taken. Since they do not fall under the same regulation that gorgonians do allowing a chunk of rock 1" in diameter to be taken with the base, Ricordea have to be carefully chiseled from the rock without getting any of the rock itself. Anyone who has done this knows that it is a rather tedious process and you can only collect so many Ricordea in a given time. I think each of us managed to collect about 10 in 1-2 hours time.
I have had no problem with ricordea propagation so it should be a viable business I would think. We should not be removing them from the wild except as set out below.
IMO there should be an immediate prohibition to collection followed by selected licencing for certified aquaculture businesses for the collection of different species for propagation purposed only.
Does anyone know the names and email address of the decision makers in the US Government where I could share my concerns as others have posted and encourage them to consider adopting what I propose?
There should also be an immediate ban on the use of quinaldine with substantiate criminal penalties for those that might continue it's use.
The importation of fish from countries that continue to use quinaldine should also be banned with severe penalties to importers who might consider trying to get around the import ban.
Thank you
Wayne
IMO there should be an immediate prohibition to collection followed by selected licencing for certified aquaculture businesses for the collection of different species for propagation purposed only.
Does anyone know the names and email address of the decision makers in the US Government where I could share my concerns as others have posted and encourage them to consider adopting what I propose?
There should also be an immediate ban on the use of quinaldine with substantiate criminal penalties for those that might continue it's use.
The importation of fish from countries that continue to use quinaldine should also be banned with severe penalties to importers who might consider trying to get around the import ban.
Thank you
Wayne
Snailman":2xyszrmy said:
This is the mission of of the FWC:
Our mission: Managing fish and wildlife resources for their long-term well-being and the benefit of people
Snailman: And why would their mission statement exclude input from Canadians sharing the same concerns they do? You don't make any sense at all.
BTW, I read through the minutes in detail. You, and industry have cause for grave concern!! Read them.
It would not suprise me to see these recommendations go nationwide including Hawaii.
I will encourage them to proceed with due haste and try to incorporate what I have proposed to other species as well because this is more than just ricordea.
Well I don't find it funny at all
I am concerned about over harvesting of ricordea and so is the FWC.
I am concerned about harvesting of ricordea when they can easily be propagated by aquaculture.
I acknowledge that 'seed stock' needs to be harvested for the purpose of getting an industry fully established.
Do you have any concerns? I thought that as this issue involves the coastal US instead of a foreign country you would be.
Wayne Ryan
I am concerned about over harvesting of ricordea and so is the FWC.
I am concerned about harvesting of ricordea when they can easily be propagated by aquaculture.
I acknowledge that 'seed stock' needs to be harvested for the purpose of getting an industry fully established.
Do you have any concerns? I thought that as this issue involves the coastal US instead of a foreign country you would be.
Wayne Ryan
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