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It sounds like business owners and home owners better start putting some money a side. Perhaps if you are renting the landlord will cover these costs for you, but don't be surprised if the lease goes up. I just wonder what they will say about the metal halide lighting when they come with the infra red cameras?

Democrats’ Cap-and-Trade Bill Creates ‘Retrofit’ Policy for Homes and Businesses
Wednesday, July 01, 2009
By Matt Cover


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) (AP Photo)
(CNSNews.com) – The 1,400-page cap-and-trade legislation pushed through by House Democrats contains a new federal policy that residential, commercial, and government buildings be retrofitted to increase energy efficiency, leaving it up to the states to figure out exactly how to do that.

This means that homeowners, for example, could be required to retrofit their homes to meet federal “green” guidelines in order to sell their homes, if the cap-and-trade bill becomes law.

The bill, which now goes to the Senate, directs the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to develop and implement a national policy for residential and commercial buildings. The purpose of such a strategy – known as the Retrofit for Energy and Environmental Performance (REEP) – would be to “facilitate” the retrofitting of existing buildings nationwide.

“The Administrator shall develop and implement, in consultation with the Secretary of Energy, standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for single-family and multi-family residences,” the bill reads.

It continues: “The purpose of the REEP program is to facilitate the retrofitting of existing buildings across the United States.”

The bill leaves the definition of a retrofit and the details of the REEP program up to the EPA. However, states are responsible for ensuring that the government’s plans are carried out, whatever the final details may entail.

“States shall maintain responsibility for meeting the standards and requirements of the REEP program,” the bill says.

States may contract with private agencies to oversee the retrofitting and measuring of improved efficiency and environmental friendliness of houses and other buildings, making sure that private citizens have a variety of choices for retrofitting their homes.

“States and local government entities may administer a REEP program in a manner that authorizes public or regulated investor-owned utilities, building auditors and inspectors, contractors, nonprofit organizations, for-profit companies, and other entities to perform audits and retrofit services,” reads the bill.

It further says, “A State or local administrator of a REEP program shall seek to ensure that sufficient qualified entities are available to support retrofit activities so that building owners have a competitive choice among qualified auditors, raters, contractors, and providers of services related to retrofits.”

In fact, individual homeowners are even allowed to retrofit buildings themselves. The bill gives specific protection to individual owners’ rights to choose who inspects and retrofits their property.

“Nothing in this section is intended to deny the right of a building owner to choose the specific providers of retrofit services to engage for a retrofit project in that owner’s building.”

Even though Congress says the states are responsible for carrying out the retrofits, the EPA and the Department of Energy will establish the guidelines and rules for doing so.

“The Administrator, in consultation with the Secretary of Energy, shall establish goals, guidelines, practices, and standards for accomplishing the purpose stated in subsection (c) [the retrofits],” the bill says.

The program would involve a system of certified auditors, inspectors, and raters who inspect homes and businesses using devices such as infrared cameras (which measure how much heat a building is giving off) to measure their energy efficiency.

The results of these energy audits would then be used to determine what retrofits need to be performed. The audits would examine things like water usage, infrared photography, and pressurized testing to determine the efficiency of door and window seals, and indoor air quality.

Those retrofits would be performed by licensed retrofit contractors using government-approved methods and resources including roofing materials that reflect solar energy.

uilding retrofits conducted pursuant to a REEP program utilize, especially in all air-conditioned buildings, roofing materials with high solar energy reflectance,” the legislation states.

After the retrofitting is complete, the government – state, local, or federal – will come back and re-inspect the house to determine how much energy has been saved and whether the retrofit is up to federal government standards.

“Determination of energy savings in a performance-based building retrofit program through — (A) for residential buildings, comparison of before and after retrofit scores,” the proposal states.

To help pay for the cost of these retrofits, states and localities may provide loans, utility rate rebates, tax rebates, or implement retrofit programs on their own. In fact, the government will even pay up to 50 percent of the cost of a retrofit through financial awards to individual home and building owners.

“PERCENTAGE.—Awards under clause (i) shall not exceed 50 percent of retrofit costs for each building,” reads the bill.
 
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mwp":1lshpxyv said:
Hmm. Already have done everything we know we can do here without buying solar panels :/

Hope it's not like water use around here. I have always conserved water since I was a little kid. My house uses far less then others and when we got restrictions put in place I had to conserve even more while the wasters still didn't get brought down to the amount I was using. Miss applied conservation efforts :(
 

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I think California's progressive environmentalism is going to be very costly to residents. My sister and her husband recently put their house in Ben Lomond (Santa Cruz county) on the market. They got a decent offer and were ready to check out of the Hotel California................ but wait they then learn they can't sell their house with the current septic tank system that uses a drain field. No, they have replace it with a holding tank that will need to be pumped out on a fairly regular basis. The cost to remove their current septic system and replace it with the holding tank is $30,000. If this REEP stuff comes to pass it will it tough on the real estate business out there because it will so expensive to get a house ready to sell.
 
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dizzy":1bm8e2nr said:
I think California's progressive environmentalism is going to be very costly to residents. My sister and her husband recently put their house in Ben Lomond (Santa Cruz county) on the market. They got a decent offer and were ready to check out of the Hotel California................ but wait they then learn they can't sell their house with the current septic tank system that uses a drain field. No, they have replace it with a holding tank that will need to be pumped out on a fairly regular basis. The cost to remove their current septic system and replace it with the holding tank is $30,000. If this REEP stuff comes to pass it will it tough on the real estate business out there because it will so expensive to get a house ready to sell.

Ahh but see your not telling all the details and since your talking my county (Ben Lomond is in Santa Cruz County) I'll tell the whole story. Their septic system leaches directly into the San Lorenzo river (or a watershed that dumps into it) which is is very bad shape, mainly from past logging and the septic systems up there. The river has an a steelhead and salmon run that is very much so in trouble. The Clean Water Act (US, not state) mandates the water quality of the river and those septic systems push it well beyond the limits. The river used to be a major salmon and steelhead run but no longer. I've seen the absolute decline in my lifetime in fact.

FWIW the buyer should be the one to replace or upgrade it IMO but they'll just try to take that off the offer :(
 

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Gresham,
Thanks for the details. Well you might think about buying a septic pumper truck. Sounds like a growth industry and can't be much worse than cleaning an aquarium. :wink:
 
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NO honey bucket for me thank you :lol: Those guys have a sh#ty job :lol:

I do know people in that trade and they make good money but man do they have to jump through some hoops.

FWIW I lived up there for a while....
 
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Thanks for linking this, Gresh. I know a few people who are going to be interested in how this will work, especially with regard to the auditors and FLIR imaging. They ain't gonna be happy about it, no sirree.
 
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seamaiden":1ng70kr7 said:
Thanks for linking this, Gresh. I know a few people who are going to be interested in how this will work, especially with regard to the auditors and FLIR imaging. They ain't gonna be happy about it, no sirree.

Um yah. A whole nother industry should be up in arms at this point, not up in smoke ;)
 

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