This gets me angry.

[ellebelle]

It isn't about winning. It's about thinking logically and not spreading misinformation. You were making an emotional argument.

 

[DrCooper]

INteresting thread! I am keeping out of this but I like seeing the opinions. HOwever, what is the guest towel thing? did i miss something or someone

 

[chazertis]

Ditto on the guest towels??

 

[inkblue]

It isn't about winning. It's about thinking logically and not spreading misinformation. You were making an emotional argument.

i aGree AGAIN you win!

 

[House of Laughter]

Not so Fine Fine Print

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A. gigas was first named by Georges Cuvier in 1817. This animal is often called a living fossil due to it's archaic morphology. This fish has also been extremely successful in the Amazon. However, due to overfishing this animal is in danger of becoming extinct.

 

[ellebelle]

Jim, where did you find that? I just checked the IUCN (not the final word on conservation, obviously, but a good resource) and they have it listed as data deficient.

 

[Pinkheine]

This may seem a bit off the wall, though in a way maybe not so much so...

I personally know nothing of this fish whether or not it is a new introduction or newly popular in the trade... BUT (the singular largest word in the English language) wouldn't it benefit the fishes if they were able to be kept in captivity and bred, even if by hobbiests?

Isn't that what we all try to do to a certain extent in our own glass boxes?

Granted I realize that more often than not it doesn't work out beneficial... BUT it could have some positives. Possibly... just a thought from a perspective that I hadn't seen mentioned as of yet.

 

[inkblue]

Am cRaving fried fLounder :Blurp: ...from cHi-town

 

[noelskii]

i think that store is on grand st. i forgot, but i definitely been there before.

 

[jejton]

Sybil - It does have some benefit depending on the species and who's doing the keeping. Certain species, due to their requirements, are better off left in the wild or in research/breeding facilities run by institutions, such as universities or public aquaria, that can properly care for and house the specimens. A good example is the fish I started the thread about. It is one of, if not the, largest freshwater fish in the world. Who exactly will be trying to breed these? Not the guy who buys it from the store in the link I posted. Ditto on more reasonably sized but likewise rare or endangered species. The failure rate of keeping many species in captivity is so high, that even with appropriately sized housing, it is more beneficial to leave the fish in the wild or the hands of dedicated specialists.

 

[noelskii]

what about all the fish we keep in our tanks; our 'piece of the ocean' or 'glass box'? do we have to wait for them to become an endangered species before we stop collecting them? do we seriously need to see it on the 'endangered species list' before we start complaining about it. how about we just try to prevent the problem before it actually turns into a real problem; like this :bablefish...

 

[inkblue]

i think that store is on grand st. i forgot, but i definitely been there before.

hop kEy on mott fLip hanGout

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

I also get real angry when people come into the house and forget to wipe their feet. Or when people use the last copy of a form and are too lazy to make more copies.

 

[inkblue]

:lol2: dooFer

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Don, you're like those people who leave their turn signals on for miles after they changed lanes. Those peoe make me :screama:

 

[Domboski]

What about this guy? Click on "mega tank" http://www.freshwaterstingray.nl/Frames Engels/English.html

 

[inkblue]

I dont know how peepS can dRive forever with tHe cLicking signaL tHingy going off :tired:

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

If seeing big fish and animals in insane conditions gets you mad and your in Queens go to the Asian food supermarket on Horace harding and Marathon in Little Neck. I know its a different element because its for food and we all eat it but you got to see all these huge fish crammed in these tanks, I was tempted to rescue one. They also having living turtles, frogs, its like a zoo.

No disrespect to any culture or individuals, but I was just caught off guard and get annoyed at seeing a tang in a sub 4 foot tank let alone this atrocity, but I guess this was just the reality...Just a little to real for someone in this hobby

It's sad to see them in person but that's facts of life in any slaughter house, I guess. Too bad, they are brought too close to our homes.

Have you seen the turkey slaughtering at the back drop of Palin's Thanksgiving TV showing? In fact, I pass by many cows packed in tiny barns right here in Kansas when I travel less than 15 minutes. But that's the way how meat are prepared, I guess.

Buddasim ask us to be vegeterian partly for that reason.

 

[jejton]

Noelski - I dont speak for others but as I stated in my posts more than once, I dont feel it is unethical to keep fish in captivity. I feel that it is wrong to keep CERTAIN fish in captivity except under specific circumstances. I am not talking about a silver arrowana, for example, which are sold to far more people than can adequately house one. They CAN be properly kept by many people people who have the proper HOME facilities. The a. giga, on the other hand, is a fish who gets too large to be really be housed by any other than a public aqiarium. The one or two persons who have the capacity to house a fish that gets over 7 feet long and 100+ lbs, probably also has the resources to buy the fish from a specialist dealer that supplies public aquaria. There is no need to have an LFS stocking this species. This is not a case of keeping a Yellow Tang in a 5 ft. aquarium versus 6 ft. aquarium.

 

[jejton]

Cheif - Just do what I do, make guests take off their shoes and dont leave towels in in the bathroom.