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Lorraine Vavra

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Hello
You all have helped me a lot in the past. Yesterday I brought home a 135 that I bought from a very nice person that did not have the time to take care of it anymore. He had put 4 little damsels in it to make it look alive. (they are living in another tank now with one of my renegade shrimps) The Nitrates were off the charts and there was a sludge and green algae all over everything. The rock was covered with sludge. (about 5 sheetrock buckets of rock) I took the rock home in the water, then swished it in clean salt water and put it in a barrel with pumps and see no life at all. He admitted that he had had the pumps and lights off for a while and that there was never any coral living in ther tank anyway. My questiuon is....should I rinse it in buckets in the yard in fresh water to get rid of the smell, even add bleach????, or keep it percolating in salt water (it is still smelly, fishy) until I get the parts I need to resetup the tank. That will probably happen in about a week from now. Thanks in advance for your advice,
Lorraine
 
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The rock still has beneficial bacterial life in it even though you don't see any bigger critters on it. If you rinse it in freshwater you will loose some or all of the bacteria. I'd keep changing the saltwater in the container, emptying it completely (getting rid of any sludge on the rocks or in the bottom of the container.

As far as the smell, can you hook an elcheapo hang-on-back powerfilter (like a Whisper) with activated carbon in it on your container? That should cut down on the smell a bit.
 

Lorraine Vavra

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Thanks LawDawg,
That makes sense. The rock is in a garbage can (plastic). I wonder if it would be just as beneficial to have it outside for a week? The temp is 60 in eve and sometimes 90 during day but I could put it in the shade. I could plug in the pump on an outside outlet. If I re-rinsed it in salt water again would that help? A filter will not sit on the edge of this round can. Mostly I just want to make sure that when I put it back in the new salt water in the cleaned up tank it will not just be a mess. Of course I will still cycle it but when I have cycled tanks before with live rock I did not use any fish, I just let them go through a cycle for a couple of months with lights, filters etc. Thanks.
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Nope, inside is better due to possible contamination and evaporation screwing up the SG, and yes I would re-rinse the rock and change the saltwater frequently. In effect you are re-curing the rock.
 

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Here is a post from reeffrontiers.com. I know that not everyone has an account over there, so I will post this here.

Loraine - this may be too in depth for what you are looking for, but a similar (less intense and extensive) process might be what you are wanting to do. Hope that this helps.


How to "cook" your rock. (Originally posted by Seant http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/sho ... ht=cooking )

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Here is the process.

The purpose of "cooking" your rocks is to have the bacteria consume all (or as much) organic material and PO4 stored on, and in, the rock as possible.
The first step to this is commitment. You have to be willing to remove your rock from the tank. It doesn't have to be all at once, but I feel if you are going to do this do it all. In stages if that is easier but make sure that all of it gets done. The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system. In order to do this, the rock needs to be in total darkness to retard and eventually kill the algae on the rock and to give the bacteria time to do the job.

So basically you need tubs to hold the rock.

Equipment needed.
1. Dedication.
2. Tubs to cook rock in. And an equal amount of tubs to hold the rock during water changes.
3. A few powerheads.
4. Plenty of buckets.
5. A smug feeling of superiority that you are taking it to "the next level."
6. Saltwater, enough made up to follow the instructions below and to replenish your tank after removing rocks.

Here are the steps:
1. Get into your head and accept the fact you will be making lots of salt water if you aren't lucky enough to have access to filtered NSW.
2. Explain to significant other what is going on so they don't flip out. This process can take up to 2 months. Prepare them in advance so he/she can mark it on the calendar and that they won't nag about it until that date arrives.
3. Setup a tub(s) where the rock is to be cooked. Garages are great for this.
4. Make up enough water to fill tub(s) about halfway and around 5-7 buckets about 60% full.
5. Remove all the rock you want to cook at this stage. (The rock can be removed piece by piece until you are done.) I suggest shutting off the circulation beforehand to minimize dust storms.
6. Take the first piece of rock and dunk it, swish it, very, very well in the first bucket. Then do it again in the 2nd bucket, then the third.
7. Place rock in the tub.
8. Repeat steps 6 & 7 to every piece of rock you want to cook at this time. The reason I suggested 5-7 buckets of water will be evident quickly...as the water quickly turns brown.
9. Place powerhead(s) in the tub and plug in. Position at least one powerhead so that it agitates the surface of the water pretty well. This is to keep the water oxygenated. You can use an air pump for additional oxygenation if you wish. Only one powerhead per tub is needed. Remember the powerheads main responsibility is the oxygenation of the water.
10. Cover the tub. Remember, we want TOTAL darkness.
11. Empty out buckets, restart circulation on main tank.
12. Wait.
13. During the first couple of weeks it is recommended to do a swishing and dunking of the rocks twice a week.
What this entails is to make up enough water to fill up those buckets and the tub the rock is in.
First, lay out your empty tub(s) and fill buckets the same as before.
Then, uncover tub with the rock in it. Take a rock and swish it in the tub it's in to knock any easy to get off junk.
Then, swish it through the 3 buckets again, and place in the empty tub..
Repeat for all your rocks.
Then empty the tub that all the rocks were cooking in, take it outside and rinse it out with a hose.
Place tub back where it was, fill with new saltwater, add rocks and powerheads, and cover.
Wait again until the next water change.
You will be utterly amazed at how much sand, silt, detritus is at the bottom of the tub and every bucket. It is amazing.
At times the stench was so strong I gagged.

How it works:
Some FAQ's.
When re-introducing the rock to my tank, a month or two from now, should I do that in parts to help minimize any cycling effect(s)...if there are any?
I never have. Really after a very short while, the ammonium cycle has been established. That's not what you're worry about though, it's the stored phosphates and that you have to wait it out.
When they are producing very little detritus - you'll know - then I would use them all at once.
Would running Carbon filtration and/or a PO4 reducing media help/hurry/hinder the process?
I wouldn't fool with it. You don't want the detritus to sit there long enough to rot, release water soluble P again. You want to take it out while it's still locked up in that bacterial detritus.
I would say that 85% of my exposed rock had Bryopsis (hair algae) covering it.
There isn't a single visible strand on any rocks my tank now.
Remember, the key is patience. Let this process run its course.
And a few last minute tidbits I remembered.
Your coralline will die back, recede etc.
My thoughts on this are GREAT!
Now my rock is more porous for additional pods, mysids, worms etc.
Coralline will grow back.
Throughout this process the sponges, and pods on my rock have not died off.
Every time I do a water change they are there and plentiful.
Remember, once you place your rock back into your tank you will need a specialized cleanup crew.
I recommend Astrea's and Cerith's, 2 to 1.
-Astrea's are great at harvesting algae.
-Cerith's are great at harvesting other algae - and - astrea poop.
-Cerith's will make the astrea poop easier for you to harvest with a skimmer.
 

Lorraine Vavra

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I really appreciate the help.
Mthompson...the advise is well taken. I am following this and the gunk and algae is coming off quickly with the dunks in salt water and a little mild brush scrubbing. The garbage can in my kitchen is covered and then every few days I dunk and move to another can and redo the process. Glad I bought a huge bucket of salt water and have an RODI unit right there!!! You have helped my futre tank greatly.
Lorraine
 

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