i know these products arent really sold anymore. just some parts i believe. but does anyone have any knowledge on troubleshooting them. wel just the "8IL" and the "25IL". i have these teo with another 8 watt ballast and i have a couple of new starters. the bulb on the 8 is brand new. i had bought it to see what was the problem. i do not have a bulb for the 25. if i have no luck with these and anyone can use any parts from these feel free to contact me. although i doubt. thanks



