I've been in the aquarium hobby for over 10 years but always been freshwater... I recently caught interest in saltwater aquariums and reefs. So I am fairly new to all this, and I must say. This is stuning!!! I've been searching the web for a good pump. My theory is the less cables/plugs the better. Instead of using a wavemaker and then have 4 pumps connected it, have anyone had experience with the WavySea Ocean Simulation Pump? Seems to be alot more energy efficient, but how is the quality of the build?
WavySea Ocean Simulation Pump
- Thread starter Rocks
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they are good to move the water back and forth across the top of the tank, you can use it on your return pump
I think the wavy sea's are great. I use 2 on my tank (127 gal) they allow you to have great water movement with out a large pump in your tank (ie vortech, tunze etc) The build quality is A+++
Greenwich Aquaria uses them on their 590gal Reef Display and on all of their coral systems.
www.greenwichaquaria.com
Greenwich Aquaria uses them on their 590gal Reef Display and on all of their coral systems.
www.greenwichaquaria.com
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- poughquag, ny
you are still going to need some type of other water movement inside the tank besides that though, unless you go with a closed loop system
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- Wallingford, CT
It's a directional water return, you still need water circulation aka powerheads/Tunzes/Vortechs.
I used 1 wavy sea with a mag 9.5 as my return and had more flow then i needed on a 54 corner. You can run 3500 GPH through 1 wavy sea. Now I use 1 wavy sea with an Ehime 1250 (317 gph) and 1 vortech on "random reef crest" for my 127 Gal tank. It really depends on the set-up the type of coral's you want to keep. Everybody is always about monster amounts of flow and it is more about a good setu,p aqua-scaping wise, that allow for good water circulation and proper coral placement. I'm not saying what anybody is saying is incorrect but that a well thought out & well set up system means a lot more then GPH
I am using 5 Wavyseas in different tanks, some of them have quality problems within 3 months after installation. The turning angle is changed after setting up, it can be a serious problem if you do not leave room for the L shape outlet to turn 360 degrees.
I am also using 4 Sea Swirls, they have no qualtity problem in the past 2 years, but I like the design and flexibility of Wavysea much better.
James
James
I am also using 4 Sea Swirls, they have no qualtity problem in the past 2 years, but I like the design and flexibility of Wavysea much better.
James
James
I kind of take offense to the "ocean simulation" moniker. I am pretty sure that there are no reefs which experience water movement in the form of a laminar jet sweeping back and forth across it. Except for odd shaped tanks like corners and hexes for which it is hard to provide flow, randomization accessories mostly serve to reduce the overall water flow speed within our tanks.
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We use wavy seas on many of our custom installs and have yet to this date had a faulty unit.
If used properly, a wavy seas will not reduce the amount of flow in a tank.
It will however, help to distribute the flow coming from a return a pump or bring much needed water flow to "dead" spots in a reef.
Wavy Seas are very versatile in that they can be paired with a Tunze, MJ, or main return from sump in order to help get water flow to those hard to reach places.
In many instances we have used them as the source of main flow in a tank when coupled with a large return pump such as a Reeflo Wahoo or similar. These are great units if you do not want to add ugly powerheads to your display and want to keep everything hidden.
I agree with ZZROCOOL. Depending on the shape of your reef, you may need several different devices to achieve the proper flow where you need it.
It is of my experience thus far that there is no singular device that will get water all over your tank. It takes a of creativity to get full coverage.
If used properly, a wavy seas will not reduce the amount of flow in a tank.
It will however, help to distribute the flow coming from a return a pump or bring much needed water flow to "dead" spots in a reef.
Wavy Seas are very versatile in that they can be paired with a Tunze, MJ, or main return from sump in order to help get water flow to those hard to reach places.
In many instances we have used them as the source of main flow in a tank when coupled with a large return pump such as a Reeflo Wahoo or similar. These are great units if you do not want to add ugly powerheads to your display and want to keep everything hidden.
I agree with ZZROCOOL. Depending on the shape of your reef, you may need several different devices to achieve the proper flow where you need it.
It is of my experience thus far that there is no singular device that will get water all over your tank. It takes a of creativity to get full coverage.
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Well said! I am all for better planning and less pumps
As far as taking disagreeing to the Ocean Simulator moniker, every other system (not including sea swirl) and yes including Vortech (which I use) all shoot water in 1 direction or in 2 opposing directions (Vortech in anti-sync mode) As far as I know the ocean doesn't do that!
This hobby is so complicated we shouldn't be doing anything to make it harder KISS (keep it simple stupid) and I am stupid!
PS. Why is it always about MAXIMUM GPH, random flow = all the coral polyps getting food not just the one's being blasted by the fire hydrant spout!
Take a look at what GA does they use a group of 45 degree and 90 degree nozzles on their Wavy Seas.
Ah HA! Notice I said nothing about water flow rate, I only mentioned water flow speed. Although it is true that a randomization technique spreads the water flow to a larger number of polyps, it does so at the expense of the quality and quantity of water movement the corals experience. This kind of "target practice" approach is ok for smaller tanks and smaller corals but what do you do when the corals get larger and start obstructing the flow no matter where you aim it?
When it comes to light we dont use spots to illuminate this or that coral so why do we aim jets and outputs to flow up our reefs? It's time to move on to mass water movement and start thinking about moving all the water within an aquarium.
When it comes to light we dont use spots to illuminate this or that coral so why do we aim jets and outputs to flow up our reefs? It's time to move on to mass water movement and start thinking about moving all the water within an aquarium.[/QUOTE]
Water speed is dictated by GPH and nozzle size, its like when you put your thumb over a garden hose same GHP but more water speed. The Wavy Sea does exactly what you said it doesn't aim water but shoots it everywhere. I m by no means disagreeing with your mass water movement in fact I agree. BUT something like a wave / tidal surge in a fish tank even into the 500 or 600 gallon range is not such a simple thing to achieve and it not really practical for an in home application. But you are right thats where we should be focusing.
we should move this thread out of here and to a new location because this it a great topic! GPH vs random low vs large scale water movement
Water speed is dictated by GPH and nozzle size, its like when you put your thumb over a garden hose same GHP but more water speed. The Wavy Sea does exactly what you said it doesn't aim water but shoots it everywhere. I m by no means disagreeing with your mass water movement in fact I agree. BUT something like a wave / tidal surge in a fish tank even into the 500 or 600 gallon range is not such a simple thing to achieve and it not really practical for an in home application. But you are right thats where we should be focusing.
we should move this thread out of here and to a new location because this it a great topic! GPH vs random low vs large scale water movement
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